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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1311975, member: 112&quot;]Not really changed a bit, more of being more specific because my comments back then were too general and because of that could be interpreted exactly as you have interpreted them. </p><p><br /></p><p>It was also posts like that one that caused me to be much more careful with my word usage, like being careful to differentiate between cleaned and harshly cleaned. As I have said many times, use of the word/words clean, cleaned, cleaning can be very misleading to people reading them. People commonly say a coin has been cleaned when they really mean that it has been harshly cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>Examples, a coin can be dipped in acetone or distilled water and cleaned, for that is what the acetone does, it cleans contaminants off the surface of the coin. But it does not harm the coin, so the coin is not deemed to have been harshly cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>A coin can be dipped in a coin dip - an acid - and be cleaned. Dirt and grime, toning, contaminants, all will be removed from the coin if done properly. And what else would call that except cleaning the coin ? But the coin will not be deemed to have been harshly cleaned. NGC and PCGS would slab it in a second.</p><p><br /></p><p>But take a coin and wash it in soapy water, rubbing with your fingers or maybe even using a dish rag or sponge. Or go to the extreme and use a scouring pad. And what else would you call that except cleaning the coin ? </p><p><br /></p><p>Beginning to see the problem ? There cleaning, and then there is cleaning. Some people will say - no, there is cleaning and then there is conservation. Well I don&#039;t about you, but when I take a soapy dishrag and rub it all over the stove top - I&#039;m cleaning the stove top. And if I have been painting and I soak my brushes in acetone, I&#039;m cleaning my brushes. I am not conserving them. </p><p><br /></p><p>Same thing with coins. When I soak a coin in acetone, I&#039;m cleaning that coin. When push comes to shove, conserve is just a fancy word for clean. </p><p><br /></p><p>For people who use plain English, we say clean, and harshly clean. That way there&#039;s no confusion. Just as there was when you read my old post.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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