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Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Silver Rider, Jan 21, 2019.

  1. Silver Rider

    Silver Rider Member

    Can't find this King for this date.
    Ireland
    1769 1/2 Penny
    O. GRORGIVS . II . REX .
    Head left
    R. HIBERIA. 1769
    Crowned Harp
    7.6 g. 26+ mm
     

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  3. paddyman98

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  4. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Or the other likely answer is that it is a contemporary counterfeit or Evasion. They frequently put the wrong dates for the monarch, especially on the evasions as that way they can get out of it being a counterfeit!
     
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  5. Kentucky

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    Not to be simple minded, but from 1760 the king should have been George III
     
  6. Silver Rider

    Silver Rider Member

    Is there a website I can look up counterfeits. I never heard of a evasion!
    Thank ya'll for the help.
     
  7. Silver Rider

    Silver Rider Member

    It's to heavy and large for a farthing.
     
  8. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    1760 is George II, just like the Numista link above.
     
  9. Silver Rider

    Silver Rider Member

    Yes but the date on the coin is 1769, that is the problem L was having.
     
  10. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Yes - but it is also too light for a regal halfpenny, which should be around 9.6g. Hence it is a contemporary counterfeit or evasion.
    The distinction:
    A counterfeit is a direct copy of a regal issue coin but made with less metal or a cheaper alloy. The problem is that counterfeiting was a capital offence, so you risked getting your neck stretched, or even worse, transported to the colonies!
    An evasion is a loose copy that under close examination is clearly not a direct copy of the regal coin. Passing off an evasion was a less serious offence. Having the wrong king on a coin for the date made it clearly an evasion.
    Evasion coins were made both in the UK and in the American colonies. The latter are the most sought after as they are amongst the earliest coins made in the colonies that became the US.

    PS: the OP coin is definitely 1769 and therefore wrong to be with George II and so an evasion.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2019
  11. Silver Rider

    Silver Rider Member

    Thank you, you have let me know something I didn't know. Is there a site where I can look into more information on evasions. I like finding out about my coins.
     
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