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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Jaybird31, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. Jaybird31

    Jaybird31 New Member

    I bought this 1885 Morgan for $30. Did I get ripped off? I need help determining if its been cleaned or what grade you would possibly give it? Thanks. 1885 Obverse.jpg 1885 Reverse.jpg
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball Cannot Re-Member

    Let's see. You bought a coin, and you have no idea if it is a problem coin or not. Why didn't you ask beforehand?

  4. Johndoe2000$

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  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Seemed like a good idea at the time...and you can't get too hurt for $30. Now, I'm lousy at grading, but the coin looks really nice and clean. Unfortunately I can see rim dings and some hits and scars here and there. It looks like pretty nice perhaps AU coin that has been excessively cleaned.
  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    In these pics, one can only make out the signs of the harsh cleaning the coin has endured in the right side of the cheek and right reverse field. However, it appears to have been brushed so hard the luster was even removed.
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  7. Keepright

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  8. Keepright

    Keepright Member

    Nice maybe you should get someone to look at it for you.
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator Supporter

    It appears to have been whizzed, which makes it look strange to those with a more seasoned eye, but which can certainly slip past the uninitiated who have not looked at many Morgan dollars.

    While still an attractive coin from a basic design/details standpoint, those surfaces are so flat and unnatural looking that it will not be a coin desired by a serious collector, though much of the general public would still admire it and it would make a nice jewelry piece. In fact, that may be why it was whizzed/polished- it could have been a jewelry piece in the past.

    As of this post there is $12.86 worth of silver bullion in a Morgan dollar, so buying a "problem" coin for $30 is not numismatically sound practice, but it's a fairly cheap mistake as these things go. And some non collector who wants that for jewelry or a belt buckle might pay $30 to get you out of it.

    Or keep it anyway. If silver goes up again, the rising bullion price would wash away the monetary error.

    Do not accuse the seller of ripping you off. They maybe didn't know it was a problem coin. Just use it as a cheap lesson learned. Hang out on forums like this and you'll learn more without spending money. You've at least done right in that regard.
  10. kanga

    kanga 60 Year Collector

    IMO there's a HIGH probability it's been dipped.
    There no toning anywhere even in the protected recesses.
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  11. Keepright

    Keepright Member

    Thks for your comment.
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  13. kanga

    kanga 60 Year Collector

    In My Opinion
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  15. swimdad

    swimdad New Member

    It has a "bleached" look to me. That usually is a good indicator of harsh cleaning. Hold the coin in hand and rotate at an angle to your eye to let light reflect off the surface and you might notice many fine surface scratches - I think I see some in the pics.

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  16. Keepright

    Keepright Member

    Bleach never thought of that.
  17. coin_nut

    coin_nut Supporter! Supporter

    Good clear picture of the coin, and at the same time something about it just didn't look right to me. I initially suspected "Made in China", as in a new made fake. The more experienced members have already contributed their 2 shekels worth of advice, and I must agree that $30 is a fairly low price for a lesson in judging coins.
  18. swimdad

    swimdad New Member

    Just a reference to the look of a silver coin without luster.

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  19. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Why live?...

    I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt and say the photos do not accurately portray the coin. I see a little luster, but I think the lighting and image doctoring is making it look weird.
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  20. Dynoking

    Dynoking Active Member

    I thought the same, Made in China.
  21. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ RE-MEMBER

    @Jaybird31 , is this a scan, or is it a picture from camera? If scanned, that would explain the dull, lifeless pics. Maybe some new pics would help.
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