need help with identifying this

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by louis a bencze, Jan 30, 2020.

  1. louis a bencze

    louis a bencze Active Member

    I know nothing of ancients and have never posted in this forum other than entering in Lord Marcovans giveaways. A coworker gave me this coin knowing I collect, I have no idea what I have. 20200130_043326[3951].jpg 20200130_043425[3950].jpg 20200130_043338[3952].jpg
     
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  3. Thomas c

    Thomas c Veni, vidi, vici, Julius Caesar

  4. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Can you take it out and photograph it
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It looks like it may possibly be a fractional stater from the Kingdom of Lydia, Croesus, Sardes Mint. Need a better image and weight/size.
     
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  6. louis a bencze

    louis a bencze Active Member

    It weighs 4.2 grams 20200130_051121[3957].jpg 20200130_051137[3956].jpg
     
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  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..i concur with Bing on this one...looks authentic, (save for a seemingly seam)...
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Isn't that a lot like saying that I'm healthy other than being dead? If that edge does have a seam as it appears in the photo, the chances of the coin being genuine and worth three digits is rather small. On the other hand, do co-workers usually have a coin like this let alone give it away. We might start by showing an edge photo but I would not get up hopes quite yet.
     
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  9. louis a bencze

    louis a bencze Active Member

    Correct it does appear to have a seam which I did not notice until actually viewing the enlarged photo I took. So it looks like another coin to add to my counterfeit coin collection (I collect those to), but for attribution can anyone tell me what it is copied after?
     
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  10. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    This actually looks like an eBay coin I bid on impulsively and won (September 1, 2019)...
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    But after winning I requested a side photo from the seller (centsles)...
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    They then easily refunded my money. I didn't realize they put it up again, and I don't know under what pretense (did they share it has a seam or that it was fake?).
     
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  11. louis a bencze

    louis a bencze Active Member

    I called my co worker and grilled him on where he got it. I told him it is fake. He said it was his moms and it came with a subscription of Readers Digest back in the 60's. He thought it would be funny to see me struggle with it
     
  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..seam seam sollabeam.... seam seam.jpg
     
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  13. wkferry

    wkferry Member

    Supposed to be a trite (3rd stater) issued by Alyates, king of Lydia and father of Croesus. The trite is purported to be the 1st actual coin. They were minted from the deposits of electrum (mixture of gold and silver) found in the river Pactolus (ancient name?) flowing past Sardis in Western Asia Minor. The deposits also could contain platinum - like metal inclusions, and if the coins incorporated these inclusions, they would appear as cracks. _DSC0392.JPG
     
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  14. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    If I recall correctly that company created a whole slew of replica coins covering several periods of history connected to material it was publishing back in the 1960's. They were not trying to fool anyone. The coins were marketed in silver, as replicas, but this was before a requirement that such coins had to be marked as copies. Once out there, some of them undoubtedly were confused with genuine old (ancient, medieval and early modern periods) I once got stuck with an 18th century silver coin that looked good. Only when I realized that it was not an exact match for anything real and tried researching it did I discover what it was, one of these 1960's replicas.
     
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  15. louis a bencze

    louis a bencze Active Member

    since mine is only 4.2 grams would it be a replica 1/2 stater. I see the 1 stater is 10.2 grams.
     
  16. If that's your coin with the seam around the edge, then that's it - the coin is a cast copy.
     
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