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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chrisild, post: 1012577, member: 39&quot;]Well, you wrote &quot;that harsh cleaning is acceptable there&quot;, ie. in Europe, and in that broad sense it is not true. Of course there are differences - for example, we don&#039;t use the Sheldon scale, and while one point on that scale often translates to an enormous price difference in the US, it is usually not that extreme here. Third party grading is uncommon in Europe, despite repeated efforts of some American grading companies. However, why would German dealers label coins &quot;gereinigt&quot;, &quot;geputzt&quot;, &quot;berieben&quot; etc. (try a search at ma-shops for example) if customers did not care about the difference at all?</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I have no idea whether this applies to all of Europe. Also, there may well be some more people around here than in the US who, when they have a choice of buying a cleaned coin or not being able to get one, will still opt for the former. But especially in the &quot;high price&quot; segment that is absolutely not common.</p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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