Need help on graffito coin

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  1. Diomedes

    Diomedes Member

    I saw this coin and the CNG said graffito on it and was wondering if anyone could tell me what this is and where it is on the coin and what it says.
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  3. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Never heard it referred to as "graffito," but that is the singular noun form of "graffiti," which is what certification companies normally put on the label (to my knowledge). It is referring to what appear to be intentional scratches behind (to the right of) the bust.
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    It's graffiti and it looks to be behind the back/neck area of Augustus, as for what it says, no clue. Looks like some simple scratches to me, but could have been done, in ancient times.
     
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  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Bunny ears for Caesar? :)
     
  6. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Grading companies use the term graffiti, when they see damage like scratches and gouges on a coin, which are random and unidentifiable.
     
  7. sand

    sand Well-Known Member

    It looks like, the graffito, is on the obverse, to the left of Augustus's head. Graffito is intentional scratches on a coin. Graffito usually lowers the aesthetic appeal of an ancient coin, and therefore it usually lowers the price/value. Unless the graffito is especially interesting.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    How do we know they are intentional?
     
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  9. sand

    sand Well-Known Member

    There is always a nonzero probability, that any scratches are random. I estimate that the probability is very high, that the scratches are intentional, because the top scratches are in the shape of a sideways "V", and the bottom of the bottom scratches are in the shape of a "V", and the left bottom scratch curves, which is highly unusual for a random scratch, and the scratches are much deeper than any other scratches on the coin.
    However, I have no idea, why someone would carve such scratches on an ancient coin. One problem with scratches, is that it is difficult to tell, whether a scratch is ancient or modern. Often, graffito is in a pattern, such as an "X", or a letter of the alphabet. The scratches on the OP coin seem to have no purpose. Perhaps someone was writing on a piece of paper, and the piece of paper was on top of the coin, and the pen or quill scratched through the paper, scratching the coin. If that is the case, then I would call that graffito as well.
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Hopefully someone can correct me. Thats a cool looking ancient. Centered reverse.
    I would search die records in the thousand years of auctions.
    a Silver Augustus.
     
  11. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    it's difficult to say if this graffito is intentional. V and ... ? It seems to be very tiny.

    Here are some coins with graffiti :

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    Philip Arrhidaeus, drachm (graf. on reverse)



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    Theodosius II, solidus (graf. on obverse)
     
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    Broucheion Well-Known Member

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