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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 563093, member: 66&quot;]One, that is not a Conder token.&nbsp; The Conders run in general in the time frame of 1787 to 1800.&nbsp; That is a 19th century piece from a later coin shortage period that ran from about 1811 to 1820.&nbsp; Those tokens are covered in British Copper tokens 1811 - 1820 by Bente Withers.&nbsp; There is a previous book by Davis but I do not recommend it.</p><p><br /></p><p>The book you mention was the first fairly comprensive catalog of the tokens and was the standard reference from 1798 to 1890.&nbsp; (James Conder was also a token issuer.&nbsp; His tokens and the book he wrote are why they are known in the US today as Conder tokens.&nbsp; In Great Britain they call them 18th century token coinage.)&nbsp; It is only of interest today for those of us who are numismatic bibliophiles.&nbsp; I just downloaded a PDF copy of it last week off of Google.&nbsp; It may have been good for its day, but I really don&#039;t understand how anyone really used it.&nbsp; There are minimal plates, and for many series there are several similar die varieties.&nbsp; The first one is described and then the others are listed as &quot;another, differently arranged.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>The standard reference today is 18th Century Provincial Token Coinage by Dalton and Hamer, published in 1910 (with reprints in 1967, 1977, 1990, 1996, and 2004.)&nbsp; For being written in 1910 it has held up remarkably well.&nbsp; Almost every die variety is pictured, and the images are decent, not halftones.&nbsp; The rarities assigned are for the most part pretty accurate.&nbsp; (There are a few serious rarity blunders, but not many.)&nbsp; Unfortunately the reprints are just that, reprints with the same errors repeated over and over with no corrections.&nbsp; Starting with the 1990 edition it also includes an addendum at the beginning that lists all of the new discoveries since the previous printing.&nbsp; The 1990 has everything since 1910, the 96 has that plus the new ones since 1990, and the 2004 has both of those plus the new discoveries since 1996.&nbsp; (It&#039;s surprising that for a series that has been actively collected for over 200 years, new discoveries are still being made.)&nbsp; The book contains between two thousand and twenty-five hundred obv/rev pairings, and when all of the different edge variations are included there are around five thousand possible varieties.&nbsp;&nbsp; (Part one of the largest callection ever assembled is going on sale this October.&nbsp; Robbie Brown collected the entire book and his collection contains around 4,900 varieties.)</p><p><br /></p><p>There are two problems with this book.&nbsp; One the number of copies are almost exhausted so it is about to go out of print again, and two it&#039;s not a cheap book.&nbsp; The lowest retail price is around $185, if the publisher still has copies he want $200.&nbsp; Your best bet is to watch for it on eBay, Numislit puts up copies from time to time.&nbsp; I recently let a collector know when a copy came up an he managed to get it for $135.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are two other works that make good companions to D&amp;H.&nbsp; The first one is Notes on 18th Century Tokens by Arthur Waters.&nbsp; This book contains more background information on the token issuers, die engravers, and token manufactures, plus for a great many of the tokens the number coined.&nbsp; This is a 1954 Stacks publication and long out of print so copies of the original are very difficult to get.&nbsp; (But photocopies are possible.)&nbsp; The second book is useful if you are going to collect the English tokens. (D&amp;H groups the tokens by country, England, Anglesey/Wales, Scotland, and Ireland.)&nbsp; Legend Index of English Conder Tokens published in 2001.&nbsp; These tokens were for the most part meant to circulate locally where it was assumed the citizens would know where they came from.&nbsp; For that reason a great many of them do not clearly indicate where they were issued.&nbsp; Often times the only way to find a token was to page through D&amp;H page by page until you found the picture of your token. A long process.&nbsp; With th index you look up the inscription from one side and it lists all of the D&amp;H numbers that used that inscription.&nbsp; Then you look up the inscription from the other side, and find what D&amp;H numbers are common to both sides.&nbsp; Usually it&#039;s just one or two, seldom is it more than four.&nbsp; But that lets you go straight to them in D&amp;H rather than searching page after page.&nbsp; Most varieties can be found in under two minutes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately this book is also out of print, but the author is preparing a second edition because one the of the exonumia dealers who handled it is wanting to purchase more copies and he can&#039;t get any more from the publisher.</p><p><br /></p><p>One other great companion item is Dr Sriro&#039;s CD of Conder tokens.&nbsp; This CD contains excellent images of some 3600 varieties.&nbsp; (Usually of high grade pieces.)&nbsp; It also lists the D&amp;H rarity for pieces that are Scarce or higher, plus the number of pieces of that variety he has seen at auction or in fixed price lists.&nbsp; Some 35,000 token sales.&nbsp; the CD is available at $35 for first time buyers and $20 for subsequent editions.&nbsp; (I have the 2005, 6, 7, (7+ that included some 70 attribution corrections I sent him), and the 2008 edition.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t see a listing for a 2009, so I assume he has not added many pieces recently.&nbsp; The one bad thing about this is that the tokens pictures are from his collection.&nbsp; So even if he has appearance data for a token, if he hasn&#039;t been able to purchase a nice one for himself, that data is not available until he does.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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