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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2775640, member: 56859"]Perhaps it would be better for us to show examples of such coins we own (not necessarily with regard to your price constraints), with the attributions so that you can then check Vcoins, auctions, etc to find a similar coin if one of them floats your boat.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are some of mine with animals or mythical creatures <b>prominent</b> on both sides. As for your color requirement... if you want "very white" and the coin is toned silver, you <i>could</i> dip it or something, although "blast white" ancient coins aren't generally desired. For a black or blackish silver coin, exposing it to a tarnishing agent will turn it black. Again, probably advisable. Some bronze coins take on a deep patina. I don't think you'll find as many bronze coins with animals as the main device on both sides.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%252Fmedia%252Fae43f8_ed2face81318491a8dbbdd9775c2b91c.jpg_srz_p_1000_521_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz%26hash%3Deb4e2731c33d90d6299f975a490a9f02&hash=fc3abaad0b16f900e73943ed64b68f00" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>ARKADIA, Psophis</b></p><p><b>450-30 BCE</b></p><p>AR obol, 10 mm, 0.69 gm</p><p>Obv: forepart of <b>Keryneian hind</b> right</p><p>Rev: <b>fish</b> right, O above, archaic psi below, all within circle incuse</p><p>Ref: BCD Peloponnesos 1680 (same dies). Rare.</p><p><i>ex Frank James Collection</i></p><p><i>ex BCD Collection</i></p><p><br /></p><p>The Keryneian hind was no ordinary female red deer. This golden-horned, bronze-hoofed hind was the sacred pet of Artemis; Herakles couldn't kill or harm the animal during lest he anger her. Capturing this fleet animal was not easy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Herakles chased the hind for a whole year. Out of desperation he shot the deer as it was about to get away again. As he rushed the injured deer to King Eurystheus he came across Artemis. Upon hearing his woeful story of the required twelve labors she took pity on him, healed the deer, and Herakles brought the unharmed deer to Mycenae.</p><p><br /></p><p>You're not likely to find one of these with bright silver or pristine surfaces.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2525252Fmedia%2525252Fae43f8_8e06bad0c82747db9f5c5e8530bbdfe7.jpg%2525252Fv1%2525252Ffill%2525252Fw_1000%2525252Ch_513%2525252Cal_c%2525252Cq_90%2525252Fae43f8_8e06bad0c82747db9f5c5e8530bbdfe7.jpg%252526hash%25253D871070f815c7594ea03303390af2db81%2526hash%253D7c94cb538ef19b36d0dacbcb87d602b1%26hash%3D83117b8c1c2da1cdb9adc2782620150c&hash=1b9ef8aad41012fca3a058347a586f83" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>CALABRIA, Tarentum</p><p>325-280 BCE</p><p>AR litra, 11 mm, 0.56 gm</p><p>Obv: <b>scallop</b> shell</p><p>Rev:<b> dolphin</b> right, trident below (I think it might be a bunch of grapes)</p><p>Ref: Vlasto 1530 (if grapes rather than trident, Vlasto 1527)</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2Fmedia%2Fae43f8_239b594c04ef46b798dbc2e7e2012ded.jpg_srb_p_1000_511_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srb&hash=c043f59de1f83d43dfb0d366b92ebf0e" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>SIKYONIA, Sikyon</b></p><p>335-330 BCE</p><p>AR stater, 23 mm, 12.3 gm</p><p>Obv: <b>Chimaera</b> standing left; wreath above, ΣE below</p><p>Rev: <b>Dove</b> flying left; A to left; all within wreath</p><p>Ref: BCD Peloponnesos 220; Traité III 775, pl. CCXX, 11</p><p><br /></p><p>There are smaller denominations of these coins as well (chimaera + dove) and some with a dove on both sides.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2525252Fmedia%2525252Fae43f8_a694caeb89394002af827a59357bbfc2.jpg%2525252Fv1%2525252Ffill%2525252Fw_1000%2525252Ch_625%2525252Cal_c%2525252Cq_90%2525252Fae43f8_a694caeb89394002af827a59357bbfc2.jpg%252526hash%25253Dc3ba543d32c5304e7ce0985ffda907cc%2526hash%253Dcf99e44d201abf034293db3d1348cb9e%26hash%3D0f064f60e933f1100397609925fca8ba&hash=6ace0676588f79e97781da2e1fc84fd5" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>LESBOS, Mytilene</b></p><p>521-478 BCE</p><p>EL hekte, 10.5 mm, 2.6 gm</p><p>Obv: forepart of <b>winged boar</b> right</p><p>Rev: incuse head of <b>lion</b> left; rectangular punch behind</p><p>Ref: Bodenstedt Em. 10; HGC 6, 935; SNG von Aulock –; Boston MFA 1678; BMC –</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%252Fmedia%252Fae43f8_dfc8bccfc9804bd8bbbb328880145268.jpg_srb_p_800_400_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srb%26hash%3D5d60f575722baf59bdefcaea600c59c5&hash=bd3a645b15b19ed790658e7b61517f13" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>IONIA, Samos</b></p><p>510-500 BCE</p><p>AR drachm, 13.7 mm, 3.2 gm</p><p>Obv: forepart of <b>winged boar</b> left</p><p>Rev: facing <b>lion scalp</b> with dotted square, within incuse square</p><p>Ref: SNG Cop 1673</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%25252Fmedia%25252Fae43f8_8a4184af6d4e4930bf30d77d1bcf4fb3.jpg%25252Fv1%25252Ffill%25252Fw_960%25252Ch_536%25252Cal_c%25252Clg_1%25252Cq_90%25252Fae43f8_8a4184af6d4e4930bf30d77d1bcf4fb3.jpg%2526hash%253D4ae7c3f8b96adb76a70e2900c6f9b397%26hash%3Db4f8866c6fd9b8ea4bbcd683e953e51f&hash=dcce96fe0e0c43ad60e950c65eae8244" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>CARIA, Mylasa</b></p><p>450-400 BCE</p><p>AR hemiobol, 7 x 9 mm, 0.5 gm</p><p>Obv: facing forepart of <b>lion</b></p><p>Rev: <b>scorpion</b> within incuse square</p><p>Ref: SNG von Aulock 7803</p><p><br /></p><p>Next is a tessera rather than a coin:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/ephesus-aetessera-gb-rt-ed-jpg.495994/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><b>IONIA, Ephesus. Anoynmous</b></p><p>c. CE 1st century</p><p>Æ tessera, 19mm, 5.14 g</p><p>Obv: CKωΠI, stage kneeling left, head right; E to left, Φ to right</p><p>Rev: KHPIΛICωΔEΠPOCΠAΛVPIN surrounding a bee</p><p>Ref: SNG Copenhagen 355; BMC 186; SNG von Aulock 1875</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-magical-tessera.277808/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-magical-tessera.277808/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-magical-tessera.277808/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2775640, member: 56859"]Perhaps it would be better for us to show examples of such coins we own (not necessarily with regard to your price constraints), with the attributions so that you can then check Vcoins, auctions, etc to find a similar coin if one of them floats your boat. Here are some of mine with animals or mythical creatures [B]prominent[/B] on both sides. As for your color requirement... if you want "very white" and the coin is toned silver, you [I]could[/I] dip it or something, although "blast white" ancient coins aren't generally desired. For a black or blackish silver coin, exposing it to a tarnishing agent will turn it black. Again, probably advisable. Some bronze coins take on a deep patina. I don't think you'll find as many bronze coins with animals as the main device on both sides. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%252Fmedia%252Fae43f8_ed2face81318491a8dbbdd9775c2b91c.jpg_srz_p_1000_521_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz%26hash%3Deb4e2731c33d90d6299f975a490a9f02&hash=fc3abaad0b16f900e73943ed64b68f00[/IMG] [B]ARKADIA, Psophis 450-30 BCE[/B] AR obol, 10 mm, 0.69 gm Obv: forepart of [B]Keryneian hind[/B] right Rev: [B]fish[/B] right, O above, archaic psi below, all within circle incuse Ref: BCD Peloponnesos 1680 (same dies). Rare. [I]ex Frank James Collection ex BCD Collection[/I] The Keryneian hind was no ordinary female red deer. This golden-horned, bronze-hoofed hind was the sacred pet of Artemis; Herakles couldn't kill or harm the animal during lest he anger her. Capturing this fleet animal was not easy. Herakles chased the hind for a whole year. Out of desperation he shot the deer as it was about to get away again. As he rushed the injured deer to King Eurystheus he came across Artemis. Upon hearing his woeful story of the required twelve labors she took pity on him, healed the deer, and Herakles brought the unharmed deer to Mycenae. You're not likely to find one of these with bright silver or pristine surfaces. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2525252Fmedia%2525252Fae43f8_8e06bad0c82747db9f5c5e8530bbdfe7.jpg%2525252Fv1%2525252Ffill%2525252Fw_1000%2525252Ch_513%2525252Cal_c%2525252Cq_90%2525252Fae43f8_8e06bad0c82747db9f5c5e8530bbdfe7.jpg%252526hash%25253D871070f815c7594ea03303390af2db81%2526hash%253D7c94cb538ef19b36d0dacbcb87d602b1%26hash%3D83117b8c1c2da1cdb9adc2782620150c&hash=1b9ef8aad41012fca3a058347a586f83[/IMG] CALABRIA, Tarentum 325-280 BCE AR litra, 11 mm, 0.56 gm Obv: [B]scallop[/B] shell Rev:[B] dolphin[/B] right, trident below (I think it might be a bunch of grapes) Ref: Vlasto 1530 (if grapes rather than trident, Vlasto 1527) [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2Fmedia%2Fae43f8_239b594c04ef46b798dbc2e7e2012ded.jpg_srb_p_1000_511_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srb&hash=c043f59de1f83d43dfb0d366b92ebf0e[/IMG] [B]SIKYONIA, Sikyon[/B] 335-330 BCE AR stater, 23 mm, 12.3 gm Obv: [B]Chimaera[/B] standing left; wreath above, ΣE below Rev: [B]Dove[/B] flying left; A to left; all within wreath Ref: BCD Peloponnesos 220; Traité III 775, pl. CCXX, 11 There are smaller denominations of these coins as well (chimaera + dove) and some with a dove on both sides. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2525252Fmedia%2525252Fae43f8_a694caeb89394002af827a59357bbfc2.jpg%2525252Fv1%2525252Ffill%2525252Fw_1000%2525252Ch_625%2525252Cal_c%2525252Cq_90%2525252Fae43f8_a694caeb89394002af827a59357bbfc2.jpg%252526hash%25253Dc3ba543d32c5304e7ce0985ffda907cc%2526hash%253Dcf99e44d201abf034293db3d1348cb9e%26hash%3D0f064f60e933f1100397609925fca8ba&hash=6ace0676588f79e97781da2e1fc84fd5[/IMG] [B]LESBOS, Mytilene[/B] 521-478 BCE EL hekte, 10.5 mm, 2.6 gm Obv: forepart of [B]winged boar[/B] right Rev: incuse head of [B]lion[/B] left; rectangular punch behind Ref: Bodenstedt Em. 10; HGC 6, 935; SNG von Aulock –; Boston MFA 1678; BMC – [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%252Fmedia%252Fae43f8_dfc8bccfc9804bd8bbbb328880145268.jpg_srb_p_800_400_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srb%26hash%3D5d60f575722baf59bdefcaea600c59c5&hash=bd3a645b15b19ed790658e7b61517f13[/IMG] [B]IONIA, Samos[/B] 510-500 BCE AR drachm, 13.7 mm, 3.2 gm Obv: forepart of [B]winged boar[/B] left Rev: facing [B]lion scalp[/B] with dotted square, within incuse square Ref: SNG Cop 1673 [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%25252Fmedia%25252Fae43f8_8a4184af6d4e4930bf30d77d1bcf4fb3.jpg%25252Fv1%25252Ffill%25252Fw_960%25252Ch_536%25252Cal_c%25252Clg_1%25252Cq_90%25252Fae43f8_8a4184af6d4e4930bf30d77d1bcf4fb3.jpg%2526hash%253D4ae7c3f8b96adb76a70e2900c6f9b397%26hash%3Db4f8866c6fd9b8ea4bbcd683e953e51f&hash=dcce96fe0e0c43ad60e950c65eae8244[/IMG] [B]CARIA, Mylasa[/B] 450-400 BCE AR hemiobol, 7 x 9 mm, 0.5 gm Obv: facing forepart of [B]lion[/B] Rev: [B]scorpion[/B] within incuse square Ref: SNG von Aulock 7803 Next is a tessera rather than a coin: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/ephesus-aetessera-gb-rt-ed-jpg.495994/[/IMG] [B]IONIA, Ephesus. Anoynmous[/B] c. CE 1st century Æ tessera, 19mm, 5.14 g Obv: CKωΠI, stage kneeling left, head right; E to left, Φ to right Rev: KHPIΛICωΔEΠPOCΠAΛVPIN surrounding a bee Ref: SNG Copenhagen 355; BMC 186; SNG von Aulock 1875 [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-magical-tessera.277808/[/url][/QUOTE]
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