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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 4163120, member: 85693"]Interesting information - thanks for sharing. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for counterfeiting a worn denarius - would this (paradoxically) be more difficult than faking a mint-state denarius? Striking from a worn die (to replicate wear) would not be very convincing - or am I wrong about this? </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a Julia Domna denarius that fooled me - it is a well-known fake (and weighs too much - the first thing that tipped me off). It looks pretty good, I think it is die struck. The more I look at it, the more I think I see mistakes - the hair is wrong, the drapery not quire right, etc. But this kind of fake could fool me again, I'm sad to say. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1073541[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is one I posted a couple years ago and everybody who responded were positive it is a fake - mostly because it weighs 2.95 grams. These folks are more experienced than I am - but I did buy my first Republican denarius over 30 years ago, so I do have some long-term exposure. Which is why I'm not completely convinced it is a fake, or at least a modern fake. It came from a seller in Spain. Over the past couple of years, I keep an eye out for lightweight examples, and they do turn up from time to time (around 3 grams). </p><p><br /></p><p>Back in the original post, I was told that making a low-grade fake would be profitable...and so the headless Marsyas, which reduces the value of this by - half? The temptation to make a well-centered one would be tough for any counterfeiter, I'd imagine. Maybe they are that diabolical, making uglies to fool a budget collector like me. But even Apollo only had Marsyas skinned - he got to keep his head!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1073543[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>One of the things I like about lower-grade coins is the wear patterns, accumulations of crud, and interesting colors that come from a circulated coin. I felt this way when I focused on world crowns too. Some of the Bulgarian fake sestertii that attempt to look "aged" are glaringly obvious. </p><p><br /></p><p>Mint state coins never appealed to me much - which is a good thing because I can't afford them! Although mint ancients with great art are indeed treasures - being able to see the details is important.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 4163120, member: 85693"]Interesting information - thanks for sharing. As for counterfeiting a worn denarius - would this (paradoxically) be more difficult than faking a mint-state denarius? Striking from a worn die (to replicate wear) would not be very convincing - or am I wrong about this? Here is a Julia Domna denarius that fooled me - it is a well-known fake (and weighs too much - the first thing that tipped me off). It looks pretty good, I think it is die struck. The more I look at it, the more I think I see mistakes - the hair is wrong, the drapery not quire right, etc. But this kind of fake could fool me again, I'm sad to say. [ATTACH=full]1073541[/ATTACH] Here is one I posted a couple years ago and everybody who responded were positive it is a fake - mostly because it weighs 2.95 grams. These folks are more experienced than I am - but I did buy my first Republican denarius over 30 years ago, so I do have some long-term exposure. Which is why I'm not completely convinced it is a fake, or at least a modern fake. It came from a seller in Spain. Over the past couple of years, I keep an eye out for lightweight examples, and they do turn up from time to time (around 3 grams). Back in the original post, I was told that making a low-grade fake would be profitable...and so the headless Marsyas, which reduces the value of this by - half? The temptation to make a well-centered one would be tough for any counterfeiter, I'd imagine. Maybe they are that diabolical, making uglies to fool a budget collector like me. But even Apollo only had Marsyas skinned - he got to keep his head! [ATTACH=full]1073543[/ATTACH] One of the things I like about lower-grade coins is the wear patterns, accumulations of crud, and interesting colors that come from a circulated coin. I felt this way when I focused on world crowns too. Some of the Bulgarian fake sestertii that attempt to look "aged" are glaringly obvious. Mint state coins never appealed to me much - which is a good thing because I can't afford them! Although mint ancients with great art are indeed treasures - being able to see the details is important.[/QUOTE]
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