Nederland en Architectuur 4 Euro Zilver Proof

There are two different versions of that €5 piece. The one in the blister pack (no idea why they always leave one side open ...) is silver-plated copper, diameter 29 mm. The proof version is a silver coin, diameter 33 mm - still quite a bit smaller than a £5 coin though.

Christian

 

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yes, they have left one side open...and that side does have scratches on it...as seen in my pics.

I don't know if I should take it out there and stick it in a flip or leave it.

 

Actually, since you said it was silver plated?
It would be best for me to get it in a flip if just to stop it from toning.

 

Right, until (and including) 2007 the coincard version had the same size and the same composition as the proof version. That changed last year - maybe due to the silver price, maybe there weren't enough people who bought the proof coins ...

Since 2008 the sizes and compositions have been different: The unc/card version still has the same size but is now a base metal ("verzilverd koper") piece. The proof version is still silver (Ag 925) and now bigger than before.

And yes, unless you plan to sell it again, it makes sense in my opinion to take it out of the coincard.

Christian

 

it seems to have sold out. This would be a much nicer coin if it was ASE size

 

Guess that the sizes of the Dutch collector coins are influenced by what they used to have before the introduction of the euro. The 2.50 NLG circulation coin was 29 mm (like the €5 coincard version), the 10 G was 33 mm (like the new silver-proof version). They also had 50 G commems, diameter 38 mm; that size has not been used (for Dutch euro collector coins) so far.

But who knows ... euro pieces with "royalty" themes have been issued as €10 silver coins in the past, size 33 mm. As that size is now used for the €5 silver-proof coins, the Dutch Mint may have to resort to larger pieces for Royal Jubilee, Royal Wedding, etc. silver-proof issues.

We'll have to wait a little longer in order to find out though. Neither of the collector issues planned for this year ("Netherlands-Manhattan" and "Dutch-Japanese relations") has a royalty theme ...

Christian

 

I want to get the Netherlands Manhattan coin. Interestingly enough, this Israeli coin is based on the Rembrandt

 

Here it is - the design that is. The coin comes out in April.



Looks good in my opinion. (Even though the coin does not feature Brooklyn. )

Christian

 

Could be worse...could have Jew Jersey on it instead.



I love anything to do with NY and/or other large cities...so I will definately be buying this coin.

I wont be cheaping out and getting a UNC version either...Zilver Proof all the way.

 

NICE! I love that COIN!

Ruben

 

BTW - they were in Brooklyn first

Ruben

:hatch:

 

Third Place Exhibit (Not Qualified): 168 points overall

Nederland en Architectuur 4 Euro Zilver Proof http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t44278/

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Art	Edu    Num  FrSt    Total          Grand Total
9 	8 	6 	10 	33 		168

9 	7 	8 	10 	34 	
	

10 	8 	6 	10 	34 	
	

8 	9 	8 	10 	35 	
	

7 	7 	8 	10 	32 	
	

 

anyone have a source for these yet. I'm virtually out of money but I really wanted one of these in silver.

 

Hmm, the coincard version (smaller, base metal) I could send you, but not the silver variety. Have a look here for example:

http://www.eurocollections.com/store/products.asp?id=173
http://rsmint.com/2009hollandfiveeurocoinissuemanhattan400years.aspx

But it seems you would need a waaay larger version of the coin and map anyway.

Christian

 

How does it look in base metal?

 

They still seem available...maybe I'll get lucky and fall into a few bucks.

 

I dunno. The 1st Dutch coin, looks to me like a gambling wheel in a casino. Traci

 

And my son doesn't like Picasso... but he can tell you why others find him to be an important artist. So at 12 his entire life hasn't yet been wasted.

Ruben

 

The "look" of the base metal version is OK. It's copper, with an ultra-thin silver layer, so it almost looks like a silver coin even though it is not. But as you know, these base metal pieces are also smaller. And with coins that have lots of tiny details, such as the Architecture and Manhattan pieces, that does make a difference ...

Christian