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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 1288687, member: 26302&quot;]Fair points sir. I agree. </p><p><br /></p><p>You are right about being able to see the metal on some under the patina, but it takes longer and requires more expertise. Even then, I have seen cleverly toned AT coins where the toning conveniently was darker in a couple of problem areas. Again, it can be seen, but is much harder.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your point about original surface is very true. This is why I liked toned coins, more for their surfaces than the color really. A full original luster silver coin is very pretty. </p><p><br /></p><p>However, my point is more of a warning to 90% of toned coin collectors who I am not sure has the experience to evaluate the surfaces under the toning. Maybe I am just too pessimistic about that, but I see a lot of crummy coins sold at a premium because they have &quot;toning&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>Like I said, I love toned coins, (or maybe better put original surface coins). They are, however, harder to make sure issues like this one aren&#039;t plaguing the coin, no?</p><p><br /></p><p>Chris[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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