Natural Toning or what?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mrgooch, May 29, 2014.

  1. coinzip

    coinzip Well-Known Member

    Probably not.......

    Desirable toning often carries a premium, sometimes multiples of price guide values.
     
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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is a pretty coin, but not worth what he's asking, as that kind of toning is not unusual at all.
     
  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    And that was precisely my point when I asked Doug why someone would bother to artificially create this type of toning. Some minor peripheral gold toning will not drive a price premium despite the efforts of the guy asking $200 for such a coin. I sell PCI graded ASEs with vivid rainbow toning for $200, for example.

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    I submit that the golden toning shown in this thread will generate very little price premium if any at all. Furthermore, if there is no financial incentive to artificially tone a coin, then why would anybody bother to create such a coin. Despite the fact that we can never be 100% sure of the origin of toning, every indicator in this case should lead us to conclude that the coin is naturally toned.
     
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    For somebody like you, somebody that knows the toned coin market, I'd agree with you Paul. But the fact is there are a lot of people out there who do not know the toned coin market. And it it is not at all uncommon for those people to way overpay for a coin like this.

    In other words, there's a lot of stupid people out there Paul - and that is the financial incentive for somebody to AT coins like this. It's the same incentive for somebody to AT any coin.
     
  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    These are three that I own. All are considered "market acceptable" by TPGS. Honestly, if I saw them raw, I might well have my doubts:

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  7. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

  8. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

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  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    While I don't dispute that there are stupid people who would buy it, my point was that the coin doctors will strive to create something a little more fantastic than some minor gold toning on the periphery.
     
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, no doubt the ones really good at it would. But there's lots out there that aren't really good at it.
     
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  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Just what I was going to say . If they;re any good they wouldn't be doing ASEs anyway . They'd be AT Morgans or other coins that bring big money .
     
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