Natural or man made?

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  1. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Umm, spin? You're on CoinTalk. I'd say the complaining about being called a geek ship has pretty much sailed.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They did esplain, it's right there in black and white - Altered Surfaces - Questionable Color. I mean that pretty much says it all, what else is there to explain about that ?
     
  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    We both hate people too! Nevertheless, we can fake being nice when needed.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, I hate everybody - but I hate them all equally :D

    And of course that why I spend thousands of hours every year, year after year, trying to help them all ;)
     
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  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    ...and you don't need to be face-to-face or can ignore them.:D
     
  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    You don't have to "like" anybody - you have the far better alternative, the Dougie bean.
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Meant the other mark on the second pic. (original post)
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Is this supposed to Mean Why the *%() did You, even send this in for grading?
     
  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I have to say, I'm quite surprised with the number of people who think this coin has artificial toning/questionable color. The toning is not over the top, the color progressions are fine, and I don't see anything wrong other than an over saturated photograph.
     
  11. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I've always thought it was like autograph collecting and JSA/PSA... essentially it boils out to: "You don't pay us enough to explain what we thought was bad about it." Apparently, it's a liability issue.
     
  12. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I think it's because, as you said, the photos were greatly over-saturated. Beyond that, the colors, which are common on nickel, look odd for similar white metal (silver) coins of the era. My two toned Buffaloes have the same look to them. Mind you, my non-toned Buffaloes all look lack-luster or acid dated (by the person who sold them to me).
     
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ahhh - never even thought of that one :oops:

    To answer your original question - yup, that's what it means.
     
  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

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    As for the original coin. I don't believe nickels tone that way naturally.
    But, anything is possible.
     
  15. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    That is a very good point...one can argue that any toning is "man made", but is this deliberate or an act of fate?
     
  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Ahh, but what if you intentionally put a silver coin in a "gas rich" environment, like attaching it to a cow's tail?
     
  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Then, You are toning. Its like putting a Gold piece on a Burrow.
    Unless, you have a display with some velvet, Maybe A 70/70. The inact is NT the act is At.
     
  18. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Are we to believe that all these coins are "baked"?
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Baked? No, not all. Gassed? Yes, in some sense, all of them. The issue is how and how long.
     
  20. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Is there any (photographic) documentation from where these coins were purchased?
     
  21. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    First off, the methane released likely wouldn't be enough to offset all the oxygen & nitrogen in the area. An average cow releases 70-120 kg of methane per year, which works out to about 5.5-10 cubic feet of methane. Air is normally 99% nitrogen and oxygen, so the concentration of methane likely wouldn't be enough to significantly alter the outgassing exposed to the coin. It's far FAR more likely that the coin gets knocked off by one of those cubes of grass that cows poop out.
     
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