National Parks Quarters look likely.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by taurus876, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    The fact that the Mint is a Government Agency and doesn't make a profit isn't symantics or technical. It is fundemental. The US Mint, not like the Franklin Mint, not like the Morgan Mint, or Littleton or Sacks, in not a business. They couldn't care less if they made a profit. Nobody takes the money home with them at the end of the day, quarter or year. If they were, I doubt they would make the Presidential Dollars.

    They can bleed money from here until the end of time and they'd get their same Government Paycheck, not a penny less. They can generate 100 tillion dollars in revenue and still not make a red cent more.

    They don't give dividends, sell stock, accumulate capital...naddah. Nothing. The only reason they would write something so stupid is because they as stupid and the people reading that report.

    The only reason they care at all about selling Bullion at market prices is so that they don't destroy the Silver and Gold Market.

    Ruben
     
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  3. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Yeah - that is all poppycock. Anyone who thinks a Government Agency can make a profit needs to see a therapist.

    The Ledger is ZERO ZERO ZERO every year. If the Mint is making profits go buy their stock.

    Ruben
     
  4. Andrew67

    Andrew67 Clueless

    Why do they charge such exorbitant prices for their product then?
     
  5. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    David, do you know what a ledger is? What is a Ledger. Start with it isn't an Annual report to the GSA. If the Mint was making profits they'd be in the same jail as Congressman Connoly who was take bribes for Defense contracts.

    Ruben
     
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    You mean instead of selling Silver below Melt prices? Because they have a congressional mandate to do so, like everything else they do. They're not supposed to flood the Market with cheap Silver.

    they serve completely at the Whim of Congress.

    I have a better question for you. How could they make Nickles for months on end above the cost of a 5 cents?

    Show me their dividend checks.


    Ruben
     
  7. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    BTW Andrew, if you don't like the prices, tel your Congressman because Congress can mandate any darn price they want.

    Ruben
     
  8. Andrew67

    Andrew67 Clueless

    Ruben I agree with you that the "mint " does not make profits but, the government does on the mint dont you think? And I'm not talking about just silver look at the clad and uncirculated prices.
     
  9. Andrew67

    Andrew67 Clueless


    We both know thats like trying to get blood from a stone!
     
  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    You'd be surpirsed what you can do. All politics is local ;)

    Ruben
     
  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    The Governement doesn't make profit either. When the Federal Government wants money it prints it or coins it (or it just rights the check). If the Government was a business we are its stock holders. They tried that in the Colonial times. It didn't work and people starved to death.

    If the Government makes profit, look out because the current deficit is blowing up and your Social security check is going to bounce.

    Ruben
     
  12. Andrew67

    Andrew67 Clueless

    Understood
     
  13. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    BTw - That is how the Roman Legion opperated, but not the US Mint ;)

    Ruben
     
  14. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    FWIW Andrew, I don't think the Mint prices are so outragous. the Mint does good work. What did you want to buy that was so expensive. Maybe I'll buy you one as a present :) asuming its not Gold or Platinum.

    Did you see the Clad Half Eagle Commem?

    Ruben
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ruben, I will put this in its simplest terms.

    If it cost the mint 6 cents to make a $1 dollar coin, and the mint sells that $1 dollar coin to the Federal Reserve for $1.

    What do you call the 94 cents the mint makes ?
     
  16. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    The mint doesn't make anything but the Government gets seigniorage
     
  17. Mr. Coin Lover

    Mr. Coin Lover Supporter**

    I guess the quarters are coming whether some of us want them and some don't (maybe a new poll question here). I do hope the mint will avoid what happened to some of the state quarters. In my opinion some of the quarters got so much stuff and got so crowded on the reverse it hurt their appearance. There is only so much room on a quarter.
     
  18. taurus876

    taurus876 Senior Member

    True, but there is plenty of room of the 3 inch 5 ounce silver duplicate.
     
  19. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    You didn't read the document I referenced, did you? Here it is again http://www.usmint.gov/downloads/abou...nualReport.pdf

    The Mint's yearly ledger is zero because they don't keep the money, they transfer all profits to the US general fund.
     
  20. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Wrong - they transfer the money there becaus it is a departmewnt of the government ...

    Ruben
     
  21. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    They aren't high compared to other world mints. (Talkin' bout bullion - ASEs etc.)
     
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