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Message:: [QUOTE="900fine, post: 603802, member: 6036"]Welcome, milomcg ! I hope you enjoy the board. Here's a way to spot the self-slabbers every time - google 'em. Real TPGs have a first-rate website. Self slabbers have nothing. When you google National Numismatic Grading you get nothing. Obviously, this is a phony non-TPG. For any real TPG, it's all about submissions. How can they make money without accepting submissions ? And how can someone find out how (and where) to submit coins if the TPG has no website ? Self-slabbed coins are worse than raw. Much worse. At least with raw coins, there is a chance the offer is legit. In contrast, A self-slabber is intentionally creating an illusion. The obvious reason : they can stick an inflated grade on there to get an inflated price. Self-slabbing is fraud. Most raw coins are overgraded. Almost all self-slabbed coins are.[/QUOTE]