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<p>[QUOTE="rick, post: 48661, member: 1235"]Moen, to some degree you are right - you are right from the perspective of a coin investor. But coins usually make for a hard investment, with rather expensive lessons to be learned. But are the market mechanisms the only things play into the value of a collection? I don't think so.</p><p> </p><p>To state what I was getting at with the economics of the situation: The impact I was referring to was the impact of supply and demand upon the market value of any particular coin. And it is less than 100% - that's just fact (or maybe my opinion, I'm not trying to sell anything here). Certain factors in micro environments cause artificial swing in both supply and demand. It is primary, but not exclusive, in price determination.</p><p> </p><p>But overvalue brings complication to the table in relation to collectors. A collector will probably be more influenced by personal utility than someone who is looking at rare coins as an investment. I don't collect stocks, I buy them and I sell them often - but I never owned a stock that I held because it meant something to me. I don't invest in coins - I have never purchased a coin with the intent of selling it when its value supercedes my 'hold'. So why would I attach the same definition of value to two very different subjects?</p><p> </p><p>No disrespect was taken. We all have our own thoughts, I'm just voicing mine. I do disagree with you in terms of dealers always winning. If anything, they run the greatest risk among any in the game - in terms of market value, the one who holds the most chips also assumes the most risks. I quite willingly pay a premium to my local dealer - for the same reason I pay a premium to the guy who sells me cigars... I want him to stay in business, and to do that, he must make a reasonable profit.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="rick, post: 48661, member: 1235"]Moen, to some degree you are right - you are right from the perspective of a coin investor. But coins usually make for a hard investment, with rather expensive lessons to be learned. But are the market mechanisms the only things play into the value of a collection? I don't think so. To state what I was getting at with the economics of the situation: The impact I was referring to was the impact of supply and demand upon the market value of any particular coin. And it is less than 100% - that's just fact (or maybe my opinion, I'm not trying to sell anything here). Certain factors in micro environments cause artificial swing in both supply and demand. It is primary, but not exclusive, in price determination. But overvalue brings complication to the table in relation to collectors. A collector will probably be more influenced by personal utility than someone who is looking at rare coins as an investment. I don't collect stocks, I buy them and I sell them often - but I never owned a stock that I held because it meant something to me. I don't invest in coins - I have never purchased a coin with the intent of selling it when its value supercedes my 'hold'. So why would I attach the same definition of value to two very different subjects? No disrespect was taken. We all have our own thoughts, I'm just voicing mine. I do disagree with you in terms of dealers always winning. If anything, they run the greatest risk among any in the game - in terms of market value, the one who holds the most chips also assumes the most risks. I quite willingly pay a premium to my local dealer - for the same reason I pay a premium to the guy who sells me cigars... I want him to stay in business, and to do that, he must make a reasonable profit.[/QUOTE]
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