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<p>[QUOTE="iamtiberius, post: 3210640, member: 37707"]The AD 1st century, Roman poet, Ovid, is the earliest, circa AD 9, source for the she-goat statue near the "image" of Vejovis. This translation from Verse 429 from 3rd book of his poem, Fasti: </p><p><br /></p><p>"<i>The Nones of March have only one mark in the calendar, because they think that on that day the temple of Veiovis was consecrated in front of the two groves. When Rolumus surrounded the grove with a high stone wall, “Take refuge here,” said he, “whoe’er thou art; thou shalt be safe.” O from how small a beginning the Roman took his rise! How little to be envied was that multitude of old! But that the strangeness of the name may not prove a stumbling-block to you in your ignorance, learn who that god is, and why he is so called. He is the Young Jupiter: look on his youthful face; <b>look then on his hand, its holds no thunderbolts</b>. Jupiter assumed the thunderbolts after the giants dared attempt to win the sky; at first he was unarmed. Ossa balzed with the new fires (of his thunderbolts); Pelion, too, higher than Ossa, and Olympus, fixed in the solid ground. <b>A she-goat also stands (beside the image of Veiovis)</b>; the Cretan nymphs are said to have fed the god; it was the she-goat that gave her milk to the infant Jove. Now I am called on to explain the name. Countrymen call stunted spelt vegrandia, and what is little they call vesca. If that is the meaning of the word, may I not suspect that the shrine of Veiovis is the shrine of the little Jupiter</i>"</p><p><br /></p><p>Source:<a href="http://www.theoi.com/Text/OvidFasti3.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.theoi.com/Text/OvidFasti3.html" rel="nofollow"> http://www.theoi.com/Text/OvidFasti3.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>That verse probably accounts for the goat, thunderbolt, and infant question you had. </p><p><br /></p><p>The following is an explanation of devices from CNG's auction of the same coin type: </p><p><br /></p><p>"<i>In the Temple of Vejovis in Rome there stood near his statue another statue of a goat with a winged Genius on its back, which alludes to the infancy of Jupiter, who, on Mount Ida, was nursed by the goat Amaltheia. The caps of the Dioscuri are placed above, because they were worshipped at Tusculum, from where the Fonteia family originated."</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>Source: <a href="https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=231707" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=231707" rel="nofollow">https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=231707</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I have no idea about the wreath and can't find an argument for either aside from what they call it. </p><p><br /></p><p>Michael[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="iamtiberius, post: 3210640, member: 37707"]The AD 1st century, Roman poet, Ovid, is the earliest, circa AD 9, source for the she-goat statue near the "image" of Vejovis. This translation from Verse 429 from 3rd book of his poem, Fasti: "[I]The Nones of March have only one mark in the calendar, because they think that on that day the temple of Veiovis was consecrated in front of the two groves. When Rolumus surrounded the grove with a high stone wall, “Take refuge here,” said he, “whoe’er thou art; thou shalt be safe.” O from how small a beginning the Roman took his rise! How little to be envied was that multitude of old! But that the strangeness of the name may not prove a stumbling-block to you in your ignorance, learn who that god is, and why he is so called. He is the Young Jupiter: look on his youthful face; [B]look then on his hand, its holds no thunderbolts[/B]. Jupiter assumed the thunderbolts after the giants dared attempt to win the sky; at first he was unarmed. Ossa balzed with the new fires (of his thunderbolts); Pelion, too, higher than Ossa, and Olympus, fixed in the solid ground. [B]A she-goat also stands (beside the image of Veiovis)[/B]; the Cretan nymphs are said to have fed the god; it was the she-goat that gave her milk to the infant Jove. Now I am called on to explain the name. Countrymen call stunted spelt vegrandia, and what is little they call vesca. If that is the meaning of the word, may I not suspect that the shrine of Veiovis is the shrine of the little Jupiter[/I]" Source:[URL='http://www.theoi.com/Text/OvidFasti3.html'] http://www.theoi.com/Text/OvidFasti3.html[/URL] That verse probably accounts for the goat, thunderbolt, and infant question you had. The following is an explanation of devices from CNG's auction of the same coin type: "[I]In the Temple of Vejovis in Rome there stood near his statue another statue of a goat with a winged Genius on its back, which alludes to the infancy of Jupiter, who, on Mount Ida, was nursed by the goat Amaltheia. The caps of the Dioscuri are placed above, because they were worshipped at Tusculum, from where the Fonteia family originated." [/I] Source: [url]https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=231707[/url] I have no idea about the wreath and can't find an argument for either aside from what they call it. Michael[/QUOTE]
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