Mystery Lincoln?

Yep...looks like the "U" in UNITED was stamped after the damage, as well. I gotta think there's something going on with the planchet prior to the strike...but two (2) exactly the same...with the same alignment? Very unlikely.
This one makes my head hurt...:headbang::desk::headbang::hammer::headbang::desk:

 

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Not knowing what during the minting process could cause this I wondered about the planchet also. As you said though with two from the same die and same alignment, that seems very improbable.

 

My very first thought was "Capped Die"...but that's not right. I have no idea. I can't wait for one of the Pros to give us the answer!

 

the planchet look as if struck before coin die process? could the pictures be altered, or is this for real...sure a nice coin

 

Both coins are mine, and the photos were taken by me. Other than cropping and white balance, the photos weren't altered in any way.

Mike stated earlier that this particular die damage could be found from the teens until 1945. It may remain a mystery, but I would just like to know what caused this type of damage.

 

I'd like to see what Bill (Foundinrolls) thinks with those updated photos. Nice shootin' Cessna driver.....:thumb:

 

Thanks Green! Had to make a short-field landing on that one.

 

I am owned by a collie, a bunch of parrots and three cats I know from hair and feathers I thought it might be

 

I would be interested in Mike D's take on this but I lean toward a die that was damaged by a feeder finger or a broken part of one. This could also happen if a die was damaged by some other rectangular piece of metal getting between a planchet and the reverse die as the coin was being struck.

It is not an issue with planchets themselves as the two coins are virtually identical and the marks, if they were a part of the planchets would have been obliterated by the striking of the coin.

Since the marks do not resemble Lincoln, it tends to rule out a clashed die scenario.

Some form of damage to the die would be the culprit. There are more of these out there somewhere. Although, I've not seen one, There has to be.

Thanks,
Bill

 

That's sounds quite reasonable...like the 1804 "Spiked Chin" half cent. If you can get CherryPickers' to validate it, the TPGs will attribute it. :thumb:

 

The damage may be from the feeder finger. Sometimes it takes the form of die dents, sometimes die scrapes, and sometimes a bit of both. The design may be attenuated as the result of metal loss. The damage is usually bilateral, and the spacing, directionality, and positioning are quite consistent.

 

Thanks Mike!

 

Thanks to both Bill and Mike for taking the time here to shed some light on this. I've still got some more of these to look through, so I'll let you know if more turn up.

 

I so love the exchange between experts......:smile