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<p>[QUOTE="HandsomeToad, post: 357215, member: 12965"]Funny to mention this at this time because I was researching this very coin last night. Someone else has described a coin like the one you described but they didn't say anything about it being two halves soldered together to make one coin, although that would have been a crude way to make a coin. Here's what was said (copy-paste):</p><p> </p><p><i>spiropoulos </i></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><i>half dollar 1861 CONFEDERATE </i></p><p><i>r. lovett's coin </i></p><p><i>off to the left of the liberty side along the shoe, is an engraved l, </i></p><p><i>not punched. </i></p><p><i>4. Mine has 17 buds on the left corn stalk, not 19 as others. </i></p><p><i>ALL OTHERS HAVE 19,INCLUDING RESTRIKES. and ANS COIN*** 5. When flipped over top to bottom, most coins remain in upright positions not so with mine, They reverse </i></p><p><i>themselfs, size is 28mm, the normal half dollar is 30, </i></p><p><i>The restrikes, and so called orginals are 30 mm, mine 28 mm </i></p><p><i>This accounts why a hand press had to be used, </i></p><p><i>To small for the coining press. </i></p><p><i>This was done to prove a new obverse, </i></p><p><i>since it was so similar to the federal obverse. </i></p><p><i>6. The T, I believe represents taylor, </i></p><p><i>The M,represents Memmenger. Two coins with the T </i></p><p><i>this is the one with M also, Memmenger's coin, </i></p><p><i>that went to Memmenger, it has a crack through date, and nose to rim. </i></p><p><i>mine has a fine crack from nose to rim, </i></p><p><i>AND ALSO CRACK THROUGH DATE AND HALF DOL. </i></p><p><i>CRACK FROM NOSE TO RIM </i></p><p><i>and from between liberty leg and first star, </i></p><p><i>seen under high resolution, on obverse the top of shield, </i></p><p><i>blank in the ans coin, mine has a forcepts type of tool, IN TOP OF SHIELD ON CONFEDERATE SIDE IS A HEMOSTSAT </i></p><p><i>A DOCTORS TOOL, TAYLOR WAS A DOCTOR </i></p><p><i>Perhaps with the T, wanted to show his trademark, he was a doctor, It has a T, stamped is to the right of the date. </i></p><p><i>An medical inst. in shield.A capital M, as part of the coin, </i></p><p><i>not stamped as T is. </i></p><p><i>Orginal, or copies that he said he made, </i></p><p><i>as stated in the Taylor to Wright letters </i></p><p><i>the letters that cannot be found and verified. </i></p><p> </p><p><i>The orginal letters cannot be found </i></p><p><i>from Taylor to Wright, see below </i></p><p><i>from Wash.D.C. and Phil. The ones accepted </i></p><p><i>but not found, many have been stolen, lost, </i></p><p><i>or misfiled. stating many were submitted, </i></p><p><i>and only one chosen. </i></p><p><i>The descripition does not go into fine details. </i></p><p><i>What was choosen, mine fits that description given </i></p><p><i>As stated in letters not located but accepted, </i></p><p><i>as the base foundation for the very exsistance </i></p><p><i>of 1861 conf. half dollar.</i> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Here's a website with one that claims the coin displayed & discussed is an orginal Lovett's 1861 Half-Dollar similar to the one described above:</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.geocities.com/losalexspirop/lovett_part_1.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.geocities.com/losalexspirop/lovett_part_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/losalexspirop/lovett_part_1.html</a></p><p> </p><p>I've also seen a similar coin for sale on iOffer but both look too much like cast copies and the original restrikes were done with the original dies using milled <a href="http://www.rebelstatescurrency.com/half_dollar.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.rebelstatescurrency.com/half_dollar.html" rel="nofollow">1861-O Seated Liberty Half-Dollars</a> (worth into the thousands and supposedly only 500 made), so I'm leary of these that appear to be cast copies but there may be something to them.</p><p> </p><p>Ribbit,</p><p>Toad <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Ps: Pictures - Pictures - Pictures. We want to see it. :kewl:[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="HandsomeToad, post: 357215, member: 12965"]Funny to mention this at this time because I was researching this very coin last night. Someone else has described a coin like the one you described but they didn't say anything about it being two halves soldered together to make one coin, although that would have been a crude way to make a coin. Here's what was said (copy-paste): [I]spiropoulos [/I] [I]half dollar 1861 CONFEDERATE [/I] [I]r. lovett's coin [/I] [I]off to the left of the liberty side along the shoe, is an engraved l, [/I] [I]not punched. [/I] [I]4. Mine has 17 buds on the left corn stalk, not 19 as others. [/I] [I]ALL OTHERS HAVE 19,INCLUDING RESTRIKES. and ANS COIN*** 5. When flipped over top to bottom, most coins remain in upright positions not so with mine, They reverse [/I] [I]themselfs, size is 28mm, the normal half dollar is 30, [/I] [I]The restrikes, and so called orginals are 30 mm, mine 28 mm [/I] [I]This accounts why a hand press had to be used, [/I] [I]To small for the coining press. [/I] [I]This was done to prove a new obverse, [/I] [I]since it was so similar to the federal obverse. [/I] [I]6. The T, I believe represents taylor, [/I] [I]The M,represents Memmenger. Two coins with the T [/I] [I]this is the one with M also, Memmenger's coin, [/I] [I]that went to Memmenger, it has a crack through date, and nose to rim. [/I] [I]mine has a fine crack from nose to rim, [/I] [I]AND ALSO CRACK THROUGH DATE AND HALF DOL. [/I] [I]CRACK FROM NOSE TO RIM [/I] [I]and from between liberty leg and first star, [/I] [I]seen under high resolution, on obverse the top of shield, [/I] [I]blank in the ans coin, mine has a forcepts type of tool, IN TOP OF SHIELD ON CONFEDERATE SIDE IS A HEMOSTSAT [/I] [I]A DOCTORS TOOL, TAYLOR WAS A DOCTOR [/I] [I]Perhaps with the T, wanted to show his trademark, he was a doctor, It has a T, stamped is to the right of the date. [/I] [I]An medical inst. in shield.A capital M, as part of the coin, [/I] [I]not stamped as T is. [/I] [I]Orginal, or copies that he said he made, [/I] [I]as stated in the Taylor to Wright letters [/I] [I]the letters that cannot be found and verified. [/I] [I]The orginal letters cannot be found [/I] [I]from Taylor to Wright, see below [/I] [I]from Wash.D.C. and Phil. The ones accepted [/I] [I]but not found, many have been stolen, lost, [/I] [I]or misfiled. stating many were submitted, [/I] [I]and only one chosen. [/I] [I]The descripition does not go into fine details. [/I] [I]What was choosen, mine fits that description given [/I] [I]As stated in letters not located but accepted, [/I] [I]as the base foundation for the very exsistance [/I] [I]of 1861 conf. half dollar.[/I] Here's a website with one that claims the coin displayed & discussed is an orginal Lovett's 1861 Half-Dollar similar to the one described above: [URL]http://www.geocities.com/losalexspirop/lovett_part_1.html[/URL] I've also seen a similar coin for sale on iOffer but both look too much like cast copies and the original restrikes were done with the original dies using milled [URL="http://www.rebelstatescurrency.com/half_dollar.html"]1861-O Seated Liberty Half-Dollars[/URL] (worth into the thousands and supposedly only 500 made), so I'm leary of these that appear to be cast copies but there may be something to them. Ribbit, Toad :) Ps: Pictures - Pictures - Pictures. We want to see it. :kewl:[/QUOTE]
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