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<p>[QUOTE="stldanceartist, post: 8024649, member: 13307"]Have you ever seen a batch of coins come across your desk and thought, "Wait a minute...why exactly are THESE....HERE???"</p><p><br /></p><p>I had that happen this afternoon.</p><p><br /></p><p>Went into a LCS to check on some jewelry pieces I picked up today for sterling scrap. The good news is that all the gold was gold and all the potential diamonds were diamonds. The better news is that my mom gets a really cool (and inexpensive) early birthday present. So I'm a good son in that regard.</p><p><br /></p><p>While I was there, the shop owner pulls out a group of coins that they had someone bring in. They wanted to get my opinion on them. Almost immediate my jaw dropped.</p><p><br /></p><p>The group contained:</p><p><br /></p><p>Morocco 1953 100 Francs (silver) UNC</p><p>Morocco 1953 100 Francs (silver) ESSAI (mintage of 1,100 pcs) UNC ++</p><p>Morocco 1947 20 Francs (Cu-Ni) Piefort ESSAI (mintage of 104 pcs) UNC</p><p>Luxembourg 1946 20 Francs (silver) ESSAI (mintage of 50 pcs) UNC ++</p><p>Luxembourg 1946 50 Francs (silver) ESSAI (mintage of 50 pcs) UNC ++</p><p>Egypt 1911 5 Qirsh (silver) UNC UNC ++</p><p>Mexico (Revolutionary - Oaxaca) 1915 2 Pesos (silver/gold) XF/AU (potentially cleaned)</p><p>Mexico (Revolutionary - Oaxaca) 1915 5 Pesos (silver/gold) AU/UNC ++</p><p>French Indochina 1908 1 Piastre (silver) solid AU</p><p><br /></p><p>There were also some ancients included (looked like some were gold) but as I really don't know much about them, I didn't do too much looking into them. LCS owner said they looked much nicer than normal and kept asking me what I thought they were worth - to which I had to repeatedly state I didn't feel comfortable even guessing.</p><p><br /></p><p>All the coins looked genuine to my eye (except I don't have a lot of experience with the Mexican Revolutionary coins) and were in crappy old plastic (non-PVC thankfully) 2x2 flips. I immediately asked the shop owner for new flips, because most of them were broken to the point where the coins could have easily fallen out.</p><p><br /></p><p>The official story is that a construction worker received them as a gift from someone for whom he previously did a job.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, my question is this: How did a group of really, really uncommon foreign coins end up in the possession of someone who said someone else gave them to him, and has no idea what they're worth?</p><p><br /></p><p>My first instinct is to question whether they are stolen. My second question is what are the odds of this particular group of coins ending up in some random coin shop on a Wednesday in November and I'm the only person who recognizes what they are (not the owner, not the previous owner, not the LCS owner?) </p><p><br /></p><p>Obviously, my third question was if I could buy them were they to become available.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is the kind of group where I feel like I'll develop an ulcer thinking about them - not only for the reasons I stated above but because I feel like this will just be another example of getting my knowledge "used" by someone else and the coins getting taken to someone else with more money, where if I'd kept my mouth shut the shop would probably have offered them $50 for the group (which is the number they floated to me before they showed me the coins) and then I'd have at least had a chance at buying one or more of them myself. I say this because this has happened to me before - I point out something cool, then someone else gets to benefit off my knowledge and nothing more is ever said about it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Am I making sense here, or just drastically overthinking the situation? What would you have done?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="stldanceartist, post: 8024649, member: 13307"]Have you ever seen a batch of coins come across your desk and thought, "Wait a minute...why exactly are THESE....HERE???" I had that happen this afternoon. Went into a LCS to check on some jewelry pieces I picked up today for sterling scrap. The good news is that all the gold was gold and all the potential diamonds were diamonds. The better news is that my mom gets a really cool (and inexpensive) early birthday present. So I'm a good son in that regard. While I was there, the shop owner pulls out a group of coins that they had someone bring in. They wanted to get my opinion on them. Almost immediate my jaw dropped. The group contained: Morocco 1953 100 Francs (silver) UNC Morocco 1953 100 Francs (silver) ESSAI (mintage of 1,100 pcs) UNC ++ Morocco 1947 20 Francs (Cu-Ni) Piefort ESSAI (mintage of 104 pcs) UNC Luxembourg 1946 20 Francs (silver) ESSAI (mintage of 50 pcs) UNC ++ Luxembourg 1946 50 Francs (silver) ESSAI (mintage of 50 pcs) UNC ++ Egypt 1911 5 Qirsh (silver) UNC UNC ++ Mexico (Revolutionary - Oaxaca) 1915 2 Pesos (silver/gold) XF/AU (potentially cleaned) Mexico (Revolutionary - Oaxaca) 1915 5 Pesos (silver/gold) AU/UNC ++ French Indochina 1908 1 Piastre (silver) solid AU There were also some ancients included (looked like some were gold) but as I really don't know much about them, I didn't do too much looking into them. LCS owner said they looked much nicer than normal and kept asking me what I thought they were worth - to which I had to repeatedly state I didn't feel comfortable even guessing. All the coins looked genuine to my eye (except I don't have a lot of experience with the Mexican Revolutionary coins) and were in crappy old plastic (non-PVC thankfully) 2x2 flips. I immediately asked the shop owner for new flips, because most of them were broken to the point where the coins could have easily fallen out. The official story is that a construction worker received them as a gift from someone for whom he previously did a job. So, my question is this: How did a group of really, really uncommon foreign coins end up in the possession of someone who said someone else gave them to him, and has no idea what they're worth? My first instinct is to question whether they are stolen. My second question is what are the odds of this particular group of coins ending up in some random coin shop on a Wednesday in November and I'm the only person who recognizes what they are (not the owner, not the previous owner, not the LCS owner?) Obviously, my third question was if I could buy them were they to become available. This is the kind of group where I feel like I'll develop an ulcer thinking about them - not only for the reasons I stated above but because I feel like this will just be another example of getting my knowledge "used" by someone else and the coins getting taken to someone else with more money, where if I'd kept my mouth shut the shop would probably have offered them $50 for the group (which is the number they floated to me before they showed me the coins) and then I'd have at least had a chance at buying one or more of them myself. I say this because this has happened to me before - I point out something cool, then someone else gets to benefit off my knowledge and nothing more is ever said about it. Am I making sense here, or just drastically overthinking the situation? What would you have done?[/QUOTE]
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