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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3045978, member: 19463"]I don't really collect Chinese coins but find it fascinating just how different specialists in these and specialists in 'Classical' (Greek and Roman) coins see things. A major factor in the authentication of a Chinese coin seems to be 'patina' which is usually beyond what Western collectors would call by that name. Crust and damage are almost expected/preferred which a perfectly preserved specimen would be hard to accept as genuine. There are many more coins that fall in the category of possibly fake even to the eyes of experts. People sell coins that are described as uncertainly genuine with less stigma as if there were three acceptable levels of merchandise (real,fake and 'who knows?'). Is a Chinese coin fake until proven real or real until proven fake. How is such a coin going to be 'proven' when the flags so obviously conflict? These things happen in Greek/Roman also but I don't note it with the same frequency. Relatively few Greek/Roman collectors prefer coins maintained with the completely crusted look. Cleaning down to the minimal, smooth patina is much more acceptable and coins with surfaces like the ones shown here would sell poorly as damaged goods. This is not a matter of one view being right and the other wrong but it is something a collector of either group might have trouble accepting if trying to collect coins from the other. I suspect some of this explains why people of my background can not get into collecting Chinese coins. I wonder if it is also why people who love spades and knives have no interest in tetradrachms. </p><p><br /></p><p>Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3045978, member: 19463"]I don't really collect Chinese coins but find it fascinating just how different specialists in these and specialists in 'Classical' (Greek and Roman) coins see things. A major factor in the authentication of a Chinese coin seems to be 'patina' which is usually beyond what Western collectors would call by that name. Crust and damage are almost expected/preferred which a perfectly preserved specimen would be hard to accept as genuine. There are many more coins that fall in the category of possibly fake even to the eyes of experts. People sell coins that are described as uncertainly genuine with less stigma as if there were three acceptable levels of merchandise (real,fake and 'who knows?'). Is a Chinese coin fake until proven real or real until proven fake. How is such a coin going to be 'proven' when the flags so obviously conflict? These things happen in Greek/Roman also but I don't note it with the same frequency. Relatively few Greek/Roman collectors prefer coins maintained with the completely crusted look. Cleaning down to the minimal, smooth patina is much more acceptable and coins with surfaces like the ones shown here would sell poorly as damaged goods. This is not a matter of one view being right and the other wrong but it is something a collector of either group might have trouble accepting if trying to collect coins from the other. I suspect some of this explains why people of my background can not get into collecting Chinese coins. I wonder if it is also why people who love spades and knives have no interest in tetradrachms. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]
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