My Quest: 1880S-1882S Morgans

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Bman33, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    The bolded is very important. Coins with minimal contact marks but muted dull luster may not get past 62. In images you may scratch your head at why the coin isn't 64-65 but once you get in hand you see the lack of luster holding it back. I've learned that expensive lesson with 1 coin that I stubbornly resubmitted twice and came back 62 both times (and I cracked it out of an old ANA 62 - who says TPGs aren't consistent :D ). In a GTG here most guessed 64 for it because that's what it looks like from the surfaces.

    I think yours looks like a nice 65 for sure and well bought. Nice thing about Heritage is, while they charge you a lot for it, coins usually arrive pretty quick. I always have mine in hand the Monday following.
     
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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    What do you Morgan experts think of this coin?

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  4. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    @mikenoodle

    Nice coin. I am no expert but I'm giving it a solid 65 and if the luster is true a 66. Liberty has a distracting mark on her face near the ear but I have seen 66 CAC's more beat up.
     
  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Old green holder pcgs. A strong 65. Should cac any day. And if for some strange reason the cAlled
    It a64 a gold bean is in order. And I’d never crack it out. The green label pcgs are my favorite holders
     
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  6. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    If you look at the barcode, The Coin is in a 63 holder, Bill
     
  7. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I have been seeing old school holders go for a nice higher premium lately almost as if it already had a green bean.

    Fooled me.
     
  8. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    ah I didn’t. Way undergraded. A gold bean candidate. Hopefully you bought it at 63 money semi pl too but not enough for the designation
     
  9. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    It’s for sale in the shop where I work
     
  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    A lot of the old holders people are trying for a gold bean or an upgrade on that’s why. And so many have already been tried. Not all old holder coins were undergraded. Some were over too. Or dipped out. Or just plain ugly. Buy the coin not the holder
     
  11. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Sage advice sir.

    So if I could get it for 63 money, I should buy it, right?
     
  12. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Factor in resubmission costs and CAC costs. That should help you decide. At 65 this is a $106 coin by Grey Sheet and $120 coin retail.
     
  13. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Here’s a different angle on the cheek.

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  14. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    How does it look without any magnification?
     
  15. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    It’s an attractive coin
     
  16. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Ok, here is the other one I won on Wednesday. Let me know your thoughts on the Grade, agree or not.

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  18. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Sure, it’s a solid gem BU coin, but you know they’re stricter with common year Morgans? There’s no toning either, which means chances are it comes back MS64+
     
  19. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    But it’s in a 63 holder...
     
  20. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I know, in a very old 63 holder. So if you decide to cross it over to NGC or submit it raw, it may come back as a 64+ instead of the 65 you’re hoping for. Comprende, amigo? :)
     
  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Remember it's an 80 S so it was graded on a curve to begin with.....those early 80's Morgan dollars were hammered...so e of the best strikes of the series.
     
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