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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 22556, member: 57463"]Ancient Chinese history is an enigma, at least to me. So many records were purposely destroyed, both in imperial times, and of course under the communists. Records that were not destroyed remain inaccessible. You would have to read Chinese excellently and do it for many styles and dialects to unravel the mystery.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ancient China may have had sophisticated forms of money long before the Greeks. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for whether or not these squares of gold are "coins" that depends on the definition of "coin" and I do not know one that is watertight. It may be that we need to totally redefine all of our terms. The idea that coins (by definition) are stamped with a mark to signify their weight or purity or value or whatever is malarky. There are so many counter-examples that you cannot call them exceptions. </p><p><br /></p><p>Coin, banknote, chit, scrip, token, promissory note, bond, receipt, ... we all sort of accept a broadly undefined range of specifics that we loosely integrate into concepts. The concepts, however, are not rigorous. I am not sure that they ever can be. It might be interesting to try.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 22556, member: 57463"]Ancient Chinese history is an enigma, at least to me. So many records were purposely destroyed, both in imperial times, and of course under the communists. Records that were not destroyed remain inaccessible. You would have to read Chinese excellently and do it for many styles and dialects to unravel the mystery. Ancient China may have had sophisticated forms of money long before the Greeks. As for whether or not these squares of gold are "coins" that depends on the definition of "coin" and I do not know one that is watertight. It may be that we need to totally redefine all of our terms. The idea that coins (by definition) are stamped with a mark to signify their weight or purity or value or whatever is malarky. There are so many counter-examples that you cannot call them exceptions. Coin, banknote, chit, scrip, token, promissory note, bond, receipt, ... we all sort of accept a broadly undefined range of specifics that we loosely integrate into concepts. The concepts, however, are not rigorous. I am not sure that they ever can be. It might be interesting to try.[/QUOTE]
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