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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 8309842, member: 27832"]I guess it comes down to what you mean by "formed".</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://science.nasa.gov/origin-elements" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://science.nasa.gov/origin-elements" rel="nofollow">The Origin of Elements</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://science.nasa.gov/files/science-pink/s3fs-public/styles/image_gallery_scale_960w/public/atoms/Nucleosynthesis2_WikipediaCmglee_1080_0.jpg?itok=3oUbxDmj" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Nearly all of the matter we can see and touch "predates the solar system" if you're talking about the individual atoms. When we talk about old <i>objects</i>, I think most people are thinking about "a lump of stuff that's been the same general shape since X".</p><p><br /></p><p>From that point of view, a billion-year-old <i>rock</i> is really old because it's <i>been a rock</i> for a billion years. Its atoms are older than that. So are the atoms in the fingers I'm using to type this. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The atoms in that gold formed before the solar system, but they didn't form lumps of metal until they condensed, and then got concentrated through geological activity -- chemical changes to their surroundings, physical pressure, erosion, and so on. So from <i>that</i> point of view, they aren't pre-solar.</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as we know, we don't have any lumps of stuff that came <i>as lumps</i> from outside the Solar System, although <a href="https://earthsky.org/space/interstellar-meteor-papua-new-guinea-2014-u-s-space-command/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://earthsky.org/space/interstellar-meteor-papua-new-guinea-2014-u-s-space-command/" rel="nofollow">there's a slight chance that may be about to change</a>. All the lumps we've examined so far were thoroughly chewed during the process of Solar System formation, and almost all a lot more recently than that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 8309842, member: 27832"]I guess it comes down to what you mean by "formed". [URL='https://science.nasa.gov/origin-elements']The Origin of Elements[/URL] [IMG]https://science.nasa.gov/files/science-pink/s3fs-public/styles/image_gallery_scale_960w/public/atoms/Nucleosynthesis2_WikipediaCmglee_1080_0.jpg?itok=3oUbxDmj[/IMG] Nearly all of the matter we can see and touch "predates the solar system" if you're talking about the individual atoms. When we talk about old [I]objects[/I], I think most people are thinking about "a lump of stuff that's been the same general shape since X". From that point of view, a billion-year-old [I]rock[/I] is really old because it's [I]been a rock[/I] for a billion years. Its atoms are older than that. So are the atoms in the fingers I'm using to type this. ;) The atoms in that gold formed before the solar system, but they didn't form lumps of metal until they condensed, and then got concentrated through geological activity -- chemical changes to their surroundings, physical pressure, erosion, and so on. So from [I]that[/I] point of view, they aren't pre-solar. As far as we know, we don't have any lumps of stuff that came [I]as lumps[/I] from outside the Solar System, although [URL='https://earthsky.org/space/interstellar-meteor-papua-new-guinea-2014-u-s-space-command/']there's a slight chance that may be about to change[/URL]. All the lumps we've examined so far were thoroughly chewed during the process of Solar System formation, and almost all a lot more recently than that.[/QUOTE]
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