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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;FitzNigel, post: 2736274, member: 74712&quot;]For most of the Middle Ages English silver was of the highest quality and sought (as well as copied) by most of Europe, to the point where The fineness of the Sterling became standard.&nbsp; Here&#039;s an imitation of a short cross penny from Germany:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]623614[/ATTACH] </p><p>German States, Osnabrück</p><p>Bishop Konrad I von Velber, r. 1227-1239 (1236-39)</p><p>AR Pfenning, 17.71 mm x 1 gram</p><p>Obv.: SANCT&#039; PE[T&#039;]. Head of St. Peter facing holding key</p><p>Rev.: +CON[RAD]VS EPC&#039;.&nbsp; Voided short cross with quatrefoil in each angle</p><p>Ref.: De Wit 1837 variety, (Kennepohl 51)</p><p>Note: Imitation of Short Cross Sterling.&nbsp; Supposedly of Henry III</p><p><br /></p><p>Real thing:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]623615[/ATTACH] </p><p>England</p><p>John, r. 1199-1216 (1205-1216)</p><p>London Mint, AR Short Cross Penny, 18.12mm x 1.54 grams</p><p>Obv.: hENRICVS RE[X].&nbsp; Bust facing crowned with sceptre, curls enclose pellets</p><p>Rev.: + WALTER . ON . LV.&nbsp; Short cross voided with quatrefoil in each angle</p><p>Ref.: North 971, SCBC 1353, CC99 JH1D-020, De Wit 3196</p><p>Ex. Dr. Murray Gell-Mann Collection</p><p><br /></p><p>There are many more imitations of Edward I&#039;s coins, but I&#039;m afraid I have none...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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