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<p>[QUOTE="Treashunt, post: 8501100, member: 6763"]I am glad that you said 'unattributed'</p><p><br /></p><p>Barnum's biographer Arthur H. Saxon tried to track down when Barnum had uttered this phrase but was unable to verify it. According to Saxon, "There's no contemporary account of it, or even any suggestion that the word 'sucker' was used in the derogatory sense in his day. Barnum was just not the type to disparage his patrons."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PT_Barnum_by_Eisenmann,_1885.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PT_Barnum_by_Eisenmann,_1885.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/PT_Barnum_by_Eisenmann%2C_1885.jpg/200px-PT_Barnum_by_Eisenmann%2C_1885.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a></p><p>Photo of P. T. Barnum by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Eisenmann" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Eisenmann" rel="nofollow">Charles Eisenmann</a></p><p>Some sources claim that it is most likely from famous <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Con-man" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Con-man" rel="nofollow">con-man</a> Joseph ("Paper Collar Joe") Bessimer,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-2" rel="nofollow">[2]</a> and other sources say that it was actually uttered by David Hannum in reference to Barnum's part in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Giant" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Giant" rel="nofollow">Cardiff Giant</a> hoax.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-3" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-3" rel="nofollow">[3]</a> Hannum was exhibiting the "original" giant and had unsuccessfully sued Barnum for exhibiting a copy and claiming that it was the original. Crowds continued to pay to see Barnum's exhibit, even after both it and the original had been proven to be fakes.[<i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" rel="nofollow">citation needed</a></i>] A circus competitor to Barnum, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Forepaugh" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Forepaugh" rel="nofollow">Adam Forepaugh</a>, attributed the quote to Barnum in a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper" rel="nofollow">newspaper</a> interview in an attempt to discredit him.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-4" rel="nofollow">[4]</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Another source credits late 1860s Chicago saloon owner <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cassius_McDonald" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cassius_McDonald" rel="nofollow">Michael Cassius McDonald</a> as the originator of the aphorism. According to the book <i>Gem of the Prairie: Chicago Underworld</i> (1940) by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Asbury" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Asbury" rel="nofollow">Herbert Asbury</a>, McDonald was equipping his gambling house known as <i>The Store</i> when his partner expressed concern over the large number of roulette wheels and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faro_(card_game)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faro_(card_game)" rel="nofollow">faro</a> tables being installed and their ability to get enough players. McDonald then allegedly said, "Don't worry about that, there's a sucker born every minute."[</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_a_sucker_born_every_minute</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Treashunt, post: 8501100, member: 6763"]I am glad that you said 'unattributed' Barnum's biographer Arthur H. Saxon tried to track down when Barnum had uttered this phrase but was unable to verify it. According to Saxon, "There's no contemporary account of it, or even any suggestion that the word 'sucker' was used in the derogatory sense in his day. Barnum was just not the type to disparage his patrons."[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-1'][1][/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PT_Barnum_by_Eisenmann,_1885.jpg'][IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/PT_Barnum_by_Eisenmann%2C_1885.jpg/200px-PT_Barnum_by_Eisenmann%2C_1885.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Photo of P. T. Barnum by [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Eisenmann']Charles Eisenmann[/URL] Some sources claim that it is most likely from famous [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Con-man']con-man[/URL] Joseph ("Paper Collar Joe") Bessimer,[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-2'][2][/URL] and other sources say that it was actually uttered by David Hannum in reference to Barnum's part in the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Giant']Cardiff Giant[/URL] hoax.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-3'][3][/URL] Hannum was exhibiting the "original" giant and had unsuccessfully sued Barnum for exhibiting a copy and claiming that it was the original. Crowds continued to pay to see Barnum's exhibit, even after both it and the original had been proven to be fakes.[[I][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed']citation needed[/URL][/I]] A circus competitor to Barnum, [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Forepaugh']Adam Forepaugh[/URL], attributed the quote to Barnum in a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper']newspaper[/URL] interview in an attempt to discredit him.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute#cite_note-4'][4][/URL] Another source credits late 1860s Chicago saloon owner [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cassius_McDonald']Michael Cassius McDonald[/URL] as the originator of the aphorism. According to the book [I]Gem of the Prairie: Chicago Underworld[/I] (1940) by [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Asbury']Herbert Asbury[/URL], McDonald was equipping his gambling house known as [I]The Store[/I] when his partner expressed concern over the large number of roulette wheels and [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faro_(card_game)']faro[/URL] tables being installed and their ability to get enough players. McDonald then allegedly said, "Don't worry about that, there's a sucker born every minute."[ [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute[/URL][/QUOTE]
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