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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 334911, member: 6370"]No, because if I bid in the last few minutes it would then extend the auction to allow other bidders a chance to rethink what they are bidding...the concept is that NOBODY can snipe...any bid placed in the last 5-10 minutes of an auction extends the auction...so no...I wouldnt be sniping...nobody would.</p><p> </p><p>Troodon, I am not sure where you are confused...of course I want to buy a coin as cheap as possible...everyone does in both real auctions and ebay hyper 5 second auctions. So I choose what my max is early on like anyone else. But sometimes things change and if there are other people wanting the coin who bid after me, I might be willing to pay more for it at that time (if pushed). In a real auction, I would have that chance to change my mind after another person bid...and other people would also have the chance to counter my bid...the way ebay is set up allowing sniping...this process often doesnt happen because you are expected to know how high you want to go in advance because sniper bidders will only enter the auction in the very last seconds giving no chance to rethink you max bid...</p><p> </p><p>Just like in a real auction I start as low as I can sometimes and then raise my offers as I am outbid...I never said I dont want to get a good deal and NOT buy the coin as cheap as possible and if no one bids against me (or snipes) then that is great, I get it cheap...</p><p> </p><p>The scenario is often like this...I see a notgeld coin for sale with 6 days left so I put my max bid in (which is often strict book price), my bid is the ONLY bid for 6 days until the last 2 seconds when one person comes in and snipes it away for a few cents more. He did this because he knows if he bids HIS max up front...I might rebid if I reconsider my max bid before the close of auction, so the person is getting it cheap...which is fine....but I think I should have had a chance to reconsider and rebid as I might now be willing to pay a few bucks more than I previous thought.</p><p> </p><p>Now I know how ebay works and if I lose the coin to a snipe, then I lose it...it would just be nice to have that chance to reconsider as much of what I buy there does not have a strict book price (like say..ancients) and value is more set by how much one wants the coin. I might be willing to pay a few more much in the end.</p><p> </p><p>I want it as cheap as I cant get it of course, but I also what the chance to counter other bids if I choose...its that simple. I still may lose the coin and under this system, I might be paying MORE than it is strictly worth...I almost always expect NOT to get a coin on my first bid...like in a live auction I expect someone else might want it as well.</p><p> </p><p>I see people here pretty much telling me to put my max in and be done with it...thats fine and good but they are not just doing this...they are sniping MY max bid that I put in well before the end of the auction so the answer seems to be, snipe or dont complain if you get snipe. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Anyway...not very important and I realize I dont HAVE to use ebay if I dont like snipes, just thinking about how it could be improved. Obviously not all agree...but I have heard seller complain that they think snipers often cause the coin to sell for cheaper (and people here on the whole seem to agree its a way to get a coin for cheap sometimes as there is no bidding and counter bidding) and I have been frustrated as a buyer by the practice as well...thing is I see people who use sniping to get a coin cheap but then complain when it is used on them as a seller...saying they dont like ebay because they arent getting good prices...</p><p> </p><p>Aslanmia...you say as a seller you enjoy seeing the last 5 second price rise...but if you are in the business of selling coins and you want the best price...wouldnt it be better if, after that rise...there is a chance of it going even higher when other bidders get a chance to put a few more bucks in because they dont want to lose a 300 dollar item for the difference of a few bucks? oh well...just a thought <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 334911, member: 6370"]No, because if I bid in the last few minutes it would then extend the auction to allow other bidders a chance to rethink what they are bidding...the concept is that NOBODY can snipe...any bid placed in the last 5-10 minutes of an auction extends the auction...so no...I wouldnt be sniping...nobody would. Troodon, I am not sure where you are confused...of course I want to buy a coin as cheap as possible...everyone does in both real auctions and ebay hyper 5 second auctions. So I choose what my max is early on like anyone else. But sometimes things change and if there are other people wanting the coin who bid after me, I might be willing to pay more for it at that time (if pushed). In a real auction, I would have that chance to change my mind after another person bid...and other people would also have the chance to counter my bid...the way ebay is set up allowing sniping...this process often doesnt happen because you are expected to know how high you want to go in advance because sniper bidders will only enter the auction in the very last seconds giving no chance to rethink you max bid... Just like in a real auction I start as low as I can sometimes and then raise my offers as I am outbid...I never said I dont want to get a good deal and NOT buy the coin as cheap as possible and if no one bids against me (or snipes) then that is great, I get it cheap... The scenario is often like this...I see a notgeld coin for sale with 6 days left so I put my max bid in (which is often strict book price), my bid is the ONLY bid for 6 days until the last 2 seconds when one person comes in and snipes it away for a few cents more. He did this because he knows if he bids HIS max up front...I might rebid if I reconsider my max bid before the close of auction, so the person is getting it cheap...which is fine....but I think I should have had a chance to reconsider and rebid as I might now be willing to pay a few bucks more than I previous thought. Now I know how ebay works and if I lose the coin to a snipe, then I lose it...it would just be nice to have that chance to reconsider as much of what I buy there does not have a strict book price (like say..ancients) and value is more set by how much one wants the coin. I might be willing to pay a few more much in the end. I want it as cheap as I cant get it of course, but I also what the chance to counter other bids if I choose...its that simple. I still may lose the coin and under this system, I might be paying MORE than it is strictly worth...I almost always expect NOT to get a coin on my first bid...like in a live auction I expect someone else might want it as well. I see people here pretty much telling me to put my max in and be done with it...thats fine and good but they are not just doing this...they are sniping MY max bid that I put in well before the end of the auction so the answer seems to be, snipe or dont complain if you get snipe. :) Anyway...not very important and I realize I dont HAVE to use ebay if I dont like snipes, just thinking about how it could be improved. Obviously not all agree...but I have heard seller complain that they think snipers often cause the coin to sell for cheaper (and people here on the whole seem to agree its a way to get a coin for cheap sometimes as there is no bidding and counter bidding) and I have been frustrated as a buyer by the practice as well...thing is I see people who use sniping to get a coin cheap but then complain when it is used on them as a seller...saying they dont like ebay because they arent getting good prices... Aslanmia...you say as a seller you enjoy seeing the last 5 second price rise...but if you are in the business of selling coins and you want the best price...wouldnt it be better if, after that rise...there is a chance of it going even higher when other bidders get a chance to put a few more bucks in because they dont want to lose a 300 dollar item for the difference of a few bucks? oh well...just a thought :)[/QUOTE]
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