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<p>[QUOTE="maridvnvm, post: 2738253, member: 31620"]Doug,</p><p>I am trying to do some die analysis on this series and have been busy documenting all that I have been able to find. I want to try and understand a little about this series and share what I find.</p><p><br /></p><p>Looking at your VICTRIS... I believe that yours is ex-Barry Murphy and there is a double die match example in the BM. These seem to come from the most frequestly used of these legend variations - IMP CA L SE SEV - PER AVG COS II</p><p><br /></p><p>I have a BONA SPES from the same obverse die. This also has a double die match in the BM.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064qn_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>CNG sold a LIBE-R AVG, Liberalitas seated with a matching obverse die.</p><p><br /></p><p>I believe that this is closely associated with the following obverse based on engraving style of the bust - IMP CA L SEP SEV - PER AVG COS II</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/RI_064jw_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>The only other example I have been able to find with this obverse die is a BONA SPES in the BM</p><p><br /></p><p>This obverse legend appears with a different obverse die... I am not aware of other examples from this obverse die.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064ng_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064sw_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064nt_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>Then comes - IMP CA L SEP SEV - PER AV COS II</p><p>I am aware of two BONA SPES examples, from the same die pair, one in the BM and one sold by Roma in 2013.</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1818969" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1818969" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1818969</a></p><p>I have a IOVI VICTORI</p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064hr_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>and a MARTI VICTORI - This is of particular interest to me as it is a reverse die link to the Mars example in my OP above. This links these two obverse dies to the same mint, which is part of what I am attempting to do with my study.</p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064oj_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>There is also a MINER VICTRIC sold by Rauch in 2013 that links to Doug's MINER VICTRIC above, which links these dies too.</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1811451" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1811451" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1811451</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This obverse die seems to be from the same hand as the following obverse die with legend - IMP CA L SEP SE-V PER AVG COS II</p><p><br /></p><p>This BONA SPES has a double die match in the BM.</p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064ps_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>There is a VICTOR AVG with this obverse die. Mine is below, a double die match is illustrated by Doug above and there is another example from the same die pair in the BM</p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064qb_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>There is a different die with a matching obverse legend (look at the position of the bow of the wreath ties and the relative position to the letter A)</p><p>I have a FORT REDVC which is a double die match to an example in the BM</p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064kb_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>Barry Murphy illustrates an Hilaritas FORT REDVC</p><p><a href="http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/images/Severan/Emesa/10594.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/images/Severan/Emesa/10594.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/images/Severan/Emesa/10594.jpg</a></p><p>And there is a IOVI VICT in the following thread on Forvm (I hope to return to this coin another time)</p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=92371.msg623811#msg623811" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=92371.msg623811#msg623811" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=92371.msg623811#msg623811</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I am only aware of two more obverse dies which have splits at the end of the legend - IMP CA L SE SEV - PEVR(sic) AVG COS I - I</p><p>I am only aware of a BONA SPES reverse</p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064sm_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>A double die match was sold by Lanz in 2002</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=115694" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=115694" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=115694</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=115694" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=115694" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></p><p>The final die has legend - IMP CA L SEP S-EV PER AVG COS - II</p><p>The only reverse I am aware of is LIBER AVG which jas a double die match in the BM</p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064kh_img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>My research continues with trawling of online resources and going through old catalogs. I hope that you don;tmind me sharing my findings with you over time as I find them.</p><p><br /></p><p>Martin[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="maridvnvm, post: 2738253, member: 31620"]Doug, I am trying to do some die analysis on this series and have been busy documenting all that I have been able to find. I want to try and understand a little about this series and share what I find. Looking at your VICTRIS... I believe that yours is ex-Barry Murphy and there is a double die match example in the BM. These seem to come from the most frequestly used of these legend variations - IMP CA L SE SEV - PER AVG COS II I have a BONA SPES from the same obverse die. This also has a double die match in the BM. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064qn_img.jpg[/IMG] CNG sold a LIBE-R AVG, Liberalitas seated with a matching obverse die. I believe that this is closely associated with the following obverse based on engraving style of the bust - IMP CA L SEP SEV - PER AVG COS II [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/RI_064jw_img.jpg[/IMG] The only other example I have been able to find with this obverse die is a BONA SPES in the BM This obverse legend appears with a different obverse die... I am not aware of other examples from this obverse die. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064ng_img.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064sw_img.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064nt_img.jpg[/IMG] Then comes - IMP CA L SEP SEV - PER AV COS II I am aware of two BONA SPES examples, from the same die pair, one in the BM and one sold by Roma in 2013. [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1818969[/url] I have a IOVI VICTORI [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064hr_img.jpg[/IMG] and a MARTI VICTORI - This is of particular interest to me as it is a reverse die link to the Mars example in my OP above. This links these two obverse dies to the same mint, which is part of what I am attempting to do with my study. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064oj_img.jpg[/IMG] There is also a MINER VICTRIC sold by Rauch in 2013 that links to Doug's MINER VICTRIC above, which links these dies too. [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1811451[/url] This obverse die seems to be from the same hand as the following obverse die with legend - IMP CA L SEP SE-V PER AVG COS II This BONA SPES has a double die match in the BM. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064ps_img.jpg[/IMG] There is a VICTOR AVG with this obverse die. Mine is below, a double die match is illustrated by Doug above and there is another example from the same die pair in the BM [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064qb_img.jpg[/IMG] There is a different die with a matching obverse legend (look at the position of the bow of the wreath ties and the relative position to the letter A) I have a FORT REDVC which is a double die match to an example in the BM [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064kb_img.jpg[/IMG] Barry Murphy illustrates an Hilaritas FORT REDVC [url]http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/images/Severan/Emesa/10594.jpg[/url] And there is a IOVI VICT in the following thread on Forvm (I hope to return to this coin another time) [url]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=92371.msg623811#msg623811[/url] I am only aware of two more obverse dies which have splits at the end of the legend - IMP CA L SE SEV - PEVR(sic) AVG COS I - I I am only aware of a BONA SPES reverse [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064sm_img.jpg[/IMG] A double die match was sold by Lanz in 2002 [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=115694']https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=115694 [/URL] The final die has legend - IMP CA L SEP S-EV PER AVG COS - II The only reverse I am aware of is LIBER AVG which jas a double die match in the BM [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/normal_RI_064kh_img.jpg[/IMG] My research continues with trawling of online resources and going through old catalogs. I hope that you don;tmind me sharing my findings with you over time as I find them. Martin[/QUOTE]
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