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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3730521, member: 96900"][ATTACH=full]1000280[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1000277[/ATTACH] They seem to be old Beirut forgeries and published in bulletin on counterfeit Vol 1 Number 2.</p><p>The authentic mother had a "die shift on 3-5 o´clock on obverse" (which resulted in a doubling of the dotted border). Copied form my bulletin of counterfeits 1 vol 2 magazine.</p><p>You can then guess how likely it is that so many solidi of the same dies have the same die shift with doubling ^^</p><p>This obverse die with this die shift and doubling exist with another reverse die, too</p><p><br /></p><p>The dot on obverse is only a die flaw and the question is:</p><p>1 if the die flaw appeared in the authentic ancient dies and was copied on transfer die , then it would be meaningless.</p><p>2 Or if this die flaw only developed in the transfer dies, then all coins with this die flaw only exiting in transfer dies would be fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>Die match obverse + reverse to</p><p>IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 1 No.2 Page 32 RO4</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=XkpTXislIrs=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=XkpTXislIrs=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=XkpTXislIrs=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>And obverse</p><p>IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 1 No.2 Page 32 RO.5 A and B</p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=T12mxI4Mk9Y=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=T12mxI4Mk9Y=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=T12mxI4Mk9Y=</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=7TWjRZfwuWw=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=7TWjRZfwuWw=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=7TWjRZfwuWw=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>You will find many of these fakes out there from both die combinations, these fakes can be spotted very easily but it would not be good to post it to give the forgers the chance to fix it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3730521, member: 96900"][ATTACH=full]1000280[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1000277[/ATTACH] They seem to be old Beirut forgeries and published in bulletin on counterfeit Vol 1 Number 2. The authentic mother had a "die shift on 3-5 o´clock on obverse" (which resulted in a doubling of the dotted border). Copied form my bulletin of counterfeits 1 vol 2 magazine. You can then guess how likely it is that so many solidi of the same dies have the same die shift with doubling ^^ This obverse die with this die shift and doubling exist with another reverse die, too The dot on obverse is only a die flaw and the question is: 1 if the die flaw appeared in the authentic ancient dies and was copied on transfer die , then it would be meaningless. 2 Or if this die flaw only developed in the transfer dies, then all coins with this die flaw only exiting in transfer dies would be fake. Die match obverse + reverse to IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 1 No.2 Page 32 RO4 [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=XkpTXislIrs=[/URL] And obverse IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 1 No.2 Page 32 RO.5 A and B [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=T12mxI4Mk9Y=[/URL] [URL]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=7TWjRZfwuWw=[/URL] You will find many of these fakes out there from both die combinations, these fakes can be spotted very easily but it would not be good to post it to give the forgers the chance to fix it.[/QUOTE]
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