My last post here and apology for my previous one...

@Jack D. Young - I am sorry this has caused such a hassle for you. I found your post, in this case, to be incredibly informative, so much so that I have now changed my collecting habits as far as U.S. Large Cents are concerned. As a matter of fact, I have found all of your posts I have read to be helpful at all times. I realize that you don't know me from Adam, but I implore you to stay here and continue to provide your incredibly helpful information to the members here, myself obviously included.

You, sir, are a highly valuable asset to this community. I would hate to lose you.

 

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I'll just ask one question then. Was the author paid for his work or did the magazine just accept it and steal that work for their own financial interest? To me, the article is the author's and he is simply giving the magazine permission to share it unless it was expressly stated in writing that he was GIVING the magazine his ownership of the article.

Perhaps he did. Perhaps it is just industry standard. But I'm not normally happy with the "that's the way we've always done it" excuse. Everything you said makes more sense if the magazine produces the article.

I guess my response is colored by my aggravation with ANCESTRY.com blocking my access to my genealogy that I produced and permitted them to use in exchange for convenience. But I don't actively use it often enough to pay for search functions. So I had no problem when my access was limited to my own tree. But then they confiscated MY FAMILY HISTORY and demand monthly payments on the chance I want any access to it.

 

Thank you- I am more concerned if this caused a hassle for the community here...

 

Jack, unless you have given away all rights to your work, which would be extremely unusual in a case like this, you have the right to republish excerpts or the whole thing as long as you cite the original publication.

I am certain that you haven't done anything wrong.

 

Jack, as you know, because I tell you, I enjoy your articles and the education I receive from them, so hope you can find a satisfactory solution. I don't do links, but to read an article or post by you, I would!

 

Does Coin Talk take the position they "own" posts in this forum? Any copyright concerns sharing items from here?

 

Jack, believe me, this would rank extremely low with some incidences the forum has had in the past and you are one of the exceptions, that seem to greatly regret the relatively minor uproar that has evolved. Yours would probably not be noticed during election season. You can see the importance of your work and knowledge here, so please continue to do so if possible.

Jim

 

I'm very happy that the post that started this thread was not the "final post" and that things seem to have sorted out. Excellent!

 

I suspect a forum like this wouldn't think about copy-writing the content since they don't produce it. That's why I get upset with companies that use other peoples content and then copy-write it.

Of course Bill Gates built an empire copying (Reverse Engineering) the operating software he was paid to develop for IBM.

 

"Does Coin Talk take the position they "own" posts in this forum? Any copyright concerns sharing items from here?"

The answer would have to come from Peter or Doug, but I am sure they do to some extent to protect the forum. At this moment close to a hundred 'bots" ( usually 200-3000 are prowling through the forum ( as with most forums) to grab "goodies" : real email addresses, other accounts, to check to see if "we" used anything without permission they can pedal to others, Only by copyrighting everything, does the site have reasonable causes to defense. To my knowledge I have never heard of any being used . We do ask members to use links to anything they do not personally own or know there is no copyright or what copyright allows, but many members do not understand why, as this happens so much on other forums also. Anyway, I have never received or seen such documentation myself. Jim

 

My Contract Administrator made 3 comments in reference she will leave in the past 2 weeks. On Friday afternoon I met with her. I had a separation agreement on my desk. She opted not to sign it. She also indicated she didn't view her threats as serious. I indicated they are. I think I have this squared away. Its a good thing because her work is good.

We will sit down Wednesday and discuss her frustrations. Perhaps come up with a plan that will help her.

 

You're a good boss. I would probably take her threats to leave personally.

 

Where did you get that idea? CoinTalk has no proprietary interest in your posts, nor does it reproduce your posts. If your posts get reproduced, it's individuals that do it.

 

Not singling out my posts, but it is a question.

Thanks for your authoritative answer.

 

You're welcome. Think of it this way. Social media takes down posts all the time. What can they do with them? Nothing more or less than CoinTalk can with the posts it takes down. Short of narrowly-drawn exceptions having nothing to do with either media, it's a rhyme, the posts are toast.

 

Jack, I find your threads to be incredibly interesting and useful. You are doing very important work and I really hope you will continue to post here. I have learned from this episode as well and will be careful to post links to referenced articles and credit photos as appropriate. Please stay!

 

A common ploy to avoid copyright issues is rewriting an article enough that it is considered new and different. Some prolific numismatic authors are masters at this. Change the title a bit, swap in some synonyms and alternate spellings for words, rearrange sentences and paragraphs, interchange active and passive voices, change tense on a few verbs, and the text is like new. There is now software available to help authors do this. Spin Rewriter and Clever Spinner are a couple of examples. In addition to suggesting changes mentioned above, the rewrite program will look at things like word, sentence and paragraph counts, suggest different paragraph breaks, and more. With the rewritten title and text, new pictures must be used too. Coin auction companies will often give permission to use their photos if they get credited.

Facts, falsehoods, and theories can’t be copyrighted … only specific instances of expressing them can be as can pictures. Actually, titles can’t be copyrighted either, but it would be foolish not to change the title if rewriting an article on which someone else holds the copyright.

Stick with us Jack!

Cal

 

Just a quick add-on. There's actually case law on plagiarism, or, as is otherwise said, "coveting one's ideas." It's a little flowery, and there's not a whole heck of a lot, but it's there.