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<p>[QUOTE="GoldCoinLover, post: 691605, member: 4336"]Hehe, me too. I bought a PCGS MS63 No motto 1908 saint for around 700 bucks. I took it to a coin show and the guy there was going to give me a great deal on it if I sold it...so I cracked it out and sent it to NGC. It graded MS64! I also showed it to an NGC grader as well as the shop I bought it from (What irony is that..) and they both thought it looked '64, the shop even would give me '64' money for it. Heh. But I'm not selling it...</p><p><br /></p><p>BNB, do not buy these coins raw, ever, especially on ebay. Although they are larger coins and therefore not counterfeited quite as much as the smaller pieces, they are still heavily counterfeited. As LostDutchman said, you can't really tell if a coin has been cleaned from photo's. I actually hadn't thought that they could manipulate the photo's like that, that's a good point. But you need to get a coin in hand and tilt it under the light for hairlines to see if it's been cleaned. Whizzed coins also have a paticular 'look' to them, but deceptive ones can be hard to spot.</p><p><br /></p><p>Always buy these slabbed, and I agree that you should go to a coin shop and buy one. That way you can cherrypick the best one, you can spot problem coins, but if you buy in a slab from PCGS or NGC you aren't getting a problem coin anyway...remember these coins always have a premium above spot. They are numismatic coins, if you want to get a coin close to spot get an XF one, but remember when you go to sell it you will not get much over spot.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think you're better off saving up your money, and buying a semi key or key date, these are always in more demand than a generic one.</p><p><br /></p><p>Same coin <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> :</p><p><img src="http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/SaintAndQuarter-1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/BeautifulBEST-1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldCoinLover, post: 691605, member: 4336"]Hehe, me too. I bought a PCGS MS63 No motto 1908 saint for around 700 bucks. I took it to a coin show and the guy there was going to give me a great deal on it if I sold it...so I cracked it out and sent it to NGC. It graded MS64! I also showed it to an NGC grader as well as the shop I bought it from (What irony is that..) and they both thought it looked '64, the shop even would give me '64' money for it. Heh. But I'm not selling it... BNB, do not buy these coins raw, ever, especially on ebay. Although they are larger coins and therefore not counterfeited quite as much as the smaller pieces, they are still heavily counterfeited. As LostDutchman said, you can't really tell if a coin has been cleaned from photo's. I actually hadn't thought that they could manipulate the photo's like that, that's a good point. But you need to get a coin in hand and tilt it under the light for hairlines to see if it's been cleaned. Whizzed coins also have a paticular 'look' to them, but deceptive ones can be hard to spot. Always buy these slabbed, and I agree that you should go to a coin shop and buy one. That way you can cherrypick the best one, you can spot problem coins, but if you buy in a slab from PCGS or NGC you aren't getting a problem coin anyway...remember these coins always have a premium above spot. They are numismatic coins, if you want to get a coin close to spot get an XF one, but remember when you go to sell it you will not get much over spot. I think you're better off saving up your money, and buying a semi key or key date, these are always in more demand than a generic one. Same coin :) : [img]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/SaintAndQuarter-1.jpg[/img] [img]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/BeautifulBEST-1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
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