My First US Large Cents

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Matthew Kruse, Oct 18, 2021.

  1. Matthew Kruse

    Matthew Kruse Young Numismatist

    I have plenty of Canadian and GB large cents but I finally got my first US large cents today at a local coin show. :)

    The first one was $5 and it’s an 1837 with two holes. It was probably used as a jacket button or something. Shoutout @lordmarcovan
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    The second one is a very corroded 1851 large cent I picked up for the right price of $1.
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    The condition may not be the best, but the price is unbeatable and there is just as much history. I will upgrade later of course, but this works for now. ;)
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Not bad at all for a buck, on that 1851.

    The 1837 was about right, for five bucks, I think. I do not think it was a button, as the holes would have been more towards the middle of the coin if that were the case. Perhaps a whirligig, though those also usually had the holes placed more near the center of the coin, I think. Really, it’s impossible to know.
     
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  4. Matthew Kruse

    Matthew Kruse Young Numismatist

    You're probably right about it not being a button now that I think about it haha. The dealer told me that usually coins with two holes like that were used as buttons but I didn't think that they should be closer together :rolleyes:

    Maybe it was a charm on a necklace?

    Either way though, I'm happy with it for $5. :)
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    A necklace charm is remotely possible, or just some holes that somebody put in there so they could carry their coins on a string.
     
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  6. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    2 holes usualy was done to sew it into your coat lining (hide it). This was a very very common practice at the time is my understanding.
     
  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Makes sense, or would have, back when a cent had any buying power.
     
  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    @mrweaseluv , Would be correct . I've seen this many times while Metal detecting . I've only found one holed coin though myself .
    See -- It was also in a fire -- FREE !
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    All of the half dimes I dug while detecting (both Bust and Seated), as well as most of the Spanish Colonial silver coins, were holed.
     
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  10. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Might have been placed over house entrance for luck/superstition.
     
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  11. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Regarding putting holes into coins for safe keeping, when did pockets
    on pants become customary? Many western I've watched have the ranch
    hands putting coin change into a shirt pocket.
     
  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Another theory about double holes is they were used to sew coins into the jackets of soldiers going to war. They didn't want them too accessible for fear of robbery or gambling. So the moms sewed them on after the dads punched a couple of holes in them.

    Single holed coins are more typical of being worn as jewelry. The holes are usually smaller and toward the edge, usually at the top near the E.

    Oops! I see that theory has already been brought up. Sorry for the duplication.
     
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  13. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I suspect coins used in this manner will have larger diameters for larger nails.
     
  14. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Yes and no. In the WEST we typically use one hole in the center for jewelry. Think about it though. Its really a horrible idea, the item flips back and forth all of the time, you are twisting the chain to have the item flat, etc. In the East, (India, Central Asia, China), they always put two holes for jewelry, so that the item always lays flat and the chain is flat. Way better idea.
     
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  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    There was a story -- unproven at the time, that the holes were made in many coins so that the owner could use a piece of thread or cloth to tie them together for safe keeping.

    I remember hearing this as a kid.

    Years later [possibly early 1980's] someone was in upstate NY [I believe] and saw a Civil War uniform in an 'antique' store for sale.

    He really liked it and the owner said, ya think that is cool, look at this, and pulled a piece of cloth out of the pocket and showed a group of coins with a piece of thread thru them.
    Thus proving the rumor/theory.
     
  16. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Can't beat the price for two large cents no matter what shape they are in. Yours are not that bad. Did you buy anything else? Thanks for sharing.
     
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  17. Matthew Kruse

    Matthew Kruse Young Numismatist

    I got a couple other coins which were in other posts. Liberty head lamination error, nickel 3 cent piece, 2 cent piece, civil war tokens, cap bust dime. I haven’t posted some of the stuff yet but most of the coins I bought were my first of the type.

    It’s the second coin show I’ve been to ;)
     
  18. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I suspect there are MANY coin shows in your future for decades to come.
     
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  19. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    The Thai satang was deliberately minted with a hole, other countries as well. They were strung together in groups of a larger denomination, in the absence of coin rolls. My spouse's grandmother was in the rice business and this is exactly what they did. Of course, you wouldn't need two holes for that. Makes me wonder when we first had coin rolls or tubes to use for this, since we never minted any holed coins that I know of.
     
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  20. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Many Asian countries used the Chinese Cash Coin as a model. It was in use for many centuries.
     
  21. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Yes, you're correct. I was just suggesting the reason for putting holes into large cents.
     
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