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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 5511274, member: 85693"]Justin II folles varied in weight as well, apparently. At least in Constantinople, with a chi-rho indicating the heavier issue.</p><p><br /></p><p>A while back I started a thread on this (I repeat it below): </p><p><br /></p><p>A couple years ago when I first started in on Byzantine coins, I read our local library's copy of <i>Byzantine Coins</i> by P.D. Whitting. There I found a reference to a chi-rho variation of the very common Justin II-Sophia follis from Constantinople (Sear 360). </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the quote: </p><p><br /></p><p>"The copper follis comes down sharply in weight and size during the reign...with an average weight of 13.5 g. There was, however, at Constantinople from the 5th regnal year onwards, a heavier issue (by a gramme) in parallel, distinguished by a Chi-Rho above the M on the reverse, as against the usual cross." </p><p>(<i>Byzantine Coins</i> (1973), by P. D. Whitting, pp. 111-112)</p><p><br /></p><p>In my own small collection, I now have four examples of Sear 360, two with the chi-rho, two the cross. Indeed there is a weight difference, pretty much in accordance with Whitting, but Byzantine coins seem to vary so much in weights I was wondering if a "gramme" difference can really be attributed to a specific symbol within this issue?</p><p><br /></p><p>I have not had any luck finding other references to this weight change online. Examples of SB 360 abound, of course, and glancing through Coin Archives I saw some examples that conform to Whitting's information. </p><p><br /></p><p>Valentinian's recent post on Anonymous follis variations shows there is an impressive number of Coin Talk Byzantine experts out there - does anybody have any other information on this? Examples? </p><p><br /></p><p>Here are mine. Such a small sample is hardly conclusive, not helped by the fact my "chi-rho" examples are quite worn, but again, the heavier weigh for the chi-rho does hold true: </p><p><br /></p><p>The top two rows have the standard cross (year 11 and year 5): 12.15 and 13.93 grams</p><p><br /></p><p>The bottom two rows have the chi-rho (both year 6): 14.61 and 14.29 grams.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/byzantine-justin-ii-follis-oct-18-0-jpg.830127/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/byzantine-follis-of-justin-ii-with-chi-rho-above-m-special-heavy-issue.324682/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/byzantine-follis-of-justin-ii-with-chi-rho-above-m-special-heavy-issue.324682/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/byzantine-follis-of-justin-ii-with-chi-rho-above-m-special-heavy-issue.324682/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 5511274, member: 85693"]Justin II folles varied in weight as well, apparently. At least in Constantinople, with a chi-rho indicating the heavier issue. A while back I started a thread on this (I repeat it below): A couple years ago when I first started in on Byzantine coins, I read our local library's copy of [I]Byzantine Coins[/I] by P.D. Whitting. There I found a reference to a chi-rho variation of the very common Justin II-Sophia follis from Constantinople (Sear 360). Here is the quote: "The copper follis comes down sharply in weight and size during the reign...with an average weight of 13.5 g. There was, however, at Constantinople from the 5th regnal year onwards, a heavier issue (by a gramme) in parallel, distinguished by a Chi-Rho above the M on the reverse, as against the usual cross." ([I]Byzantine Coins[/I] (1973), by P. D. Whitting, pp. 111-112) In my own small collection, I now have four examples of Sear 360, two with the chi-rho, two the cross. Indeed there is a weight difference, pretty much in accordance with Whitting, but Byzantine coins seem to vary so much in weights I was wondering if a "gramme" difference can really be attributed to a specific symbol within this issue? I have not had any luck finding other references to this weight change online. Examples of SB 360 abound, of course, and glancing through Coin Archives I saw some examples that conform to Whitting's information. Valentinian's recent post on Anonymous follis variations shows there is an impressive number of Coin Talk Byzantine experts out there - does anybody have any other information on this? Examples? Here are mine. Such a small sample is hardly conclusive, not helped by the fact my "chi-rho" examples are quite worn, but again, the heavier weigh for the chi-rho does hold true: The top two rows have the standard cross (year 11 and year 5): 12.15 and 13.93 grams The bottom two rows have the chi-rho (both year 6): 14.61 and 14.29 grams. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/byzantine-justin-ii-follis-oct-18-0-jpg.830127/[/IMG] [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/byzantine-follis-of-justin-ii-with-chi-rho-above-m-special-heavy-issue.324682/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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