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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2937245, member: 19463&quot;]I might not say &#039;arbitrary&#039; but we have to remember that some of these coins were issued over a rather long time and separating them into groups that line up with history may not be possible.&nbsp; First we would need to establish that the coins were changed when governments did.&nbsp; Dionysus or 2nd Democracy?&nbsp; Both?&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The coin shown on <a href="http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Area_IV_map/Syracusa_map/Syracusa.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Area_IV_map/Syracusa_map/Syracusa.html" rel="nofollow">this page</a> has a very different head with top knot which I would suspect means it was earlier than the OP coin but suspecting and proving may be different matters.&nbsp; Many are bothered by Greek coins being dated only to large general periods but there are cases where we lack certain evidence and must decide between guessing or being vague.&nbsp;&nbsp; The same goes for denominations.&nbsp; Some of these are marked with dots (two=hexas, three=tetras).&nbsp; Some we guess by saying yours weighs more like a tetras but this is why many of us hedge bets and say AE13.&nbsp; Do we risk being wrong and adding confusion or do we hide from doing the serious study to be able to advance knowledge with improved theories?&nbsp; Absolutely certain facts not needing extensive footnotes or hedges can be hard to find. </p><p><br /></p><p>I do not have an AE octopus and my AR litra is centered so as to be impossible to see the top of the head and hairstyle.&nbsp; It does show the city name in too small letters. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]714492[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This hemilitron has the topknot rather like the coin in zumbly&#039;s link but is it too much to suggest that it dates closely with that coin?&nbsp; Questions like this get addressed when new books by new scholars rethink old classics.&nbsp; We amateurs will be asked to accept their thoughts until the next rework come along. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]714506[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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