My First ROMAN CARTHAGE

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    One of my Daughters and her Family went out on a limb and got me an Ancient Coin for Xmas. She had no clue what to get me, she just surprised me.

    Well, they did very well! I collect Carthage EMPIRE coins, but I have never acquired a ROMAN Empire CARTHAGE mint coin... I am very excited about this, so I will probly slot it in with my Carthage Empire coins.

    :)

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    Roman Imperial
    Galerius
    299-303 CE
    AE Follis 28mm 9.9g
    CARTHAGE mint
    O: MAXIMIANVS NOB CAES (Large Head type)
    R: Cartago holding fruit SALVIS AGG ET CAESS FEL KART
    RIC VI 32b Sear 14411


    I do need some help on the device in exergue... I am NOT sure what Letter it is... Delta, Eta, or to me... it looks like Iota-Sigma.

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    Thanks for any help.


    Oh, and to keep it legit, here is a real Carthage Empire Coin :D

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    Carthage Zeugitania
    First Punic War 264-241 BCE
    Double Shekel
    26 mm 13.9 g
    Wreathed Tanit
    Horse stndng r star above
    SNG Cop 185 Rare

    As always, please feel free to post anything cool!

    I don't get picky, we are here to have FUN!
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Your daughter did a great job!
    I picked up one of these this year as well but with Constantius Chlorus!
    Constantius I, Follis, SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART, Γ.png
    (it looks better in hand)
    Constantius I
    298-299 AD
    Follis
    Carthage
    Obverse: CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES, laureate head right (large head type)
    Reverse: SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART, Carthago standing facing, head left, in long robe, holding fruits in both hands. Mintmark Γ
     
  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...what a great gift! :...i have the same coin(..well, AVG. but close enough:p) too in my tetarchy :) IMG_0556.JPG
     
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  5. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Alegandron, I think your coin is Galerius, not Maximian Herculius :(. Attached below is one from my collection :D.
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  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Wonderful gift!

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    Constantius I (293 - 305 A.D.)
    Æ Follis
    O.: CONSTANTIVS NOB CES; Laureate head right.
    R.: SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART; Carthago standing facing, head left, holding fruits in both hands // Γ
    Carthage mint, 298-299 A.D.
    8.4g
    31mm
    RIC VI 30a, p. 427
     
  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I do not know for myself, Al. I really do not collect Moderns (CE / AD), rather most of my coins are BCE. :)

    Here is the TAG that came with it. I did a quick ACSearch and VCoins search to get the attribution, and it looked ok for Maximianus. I have never purchased coins from Littleton.

    Any of your expertise would be great!

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  9. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Awhile ago @Heliodromus replied to a question of mine on the officina assignments for these coins of Carthage. His replies were very interesting to me and well worth a read.
     
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  10. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

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  11. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    F.F., Thanks for the correction :shame:. I started my New Years celebration early downing a half bottle of Merlot already :confused:. I'll correct the error :D.
     
  12. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Alegandron, I spotted the NOB CAES at the end of the obverse inscription, & Maximian never had that title :p. I've made that mistake in the past too :rolleyes:.
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Excellent! I wondered. He was always top dog. Thank you for your kind help.
     
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  14. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Having a better New Year's Eve than me. Keep it up :)
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Here is the ACSearch listing that had led me in the wrong direction. It is RIC 27b, with obv. legend of MAXIMIANVS NOB CAES exactly like my coin. There is no GAL in front of the legend. The SAVOCA auction listed it as Maximianus Herculius.

    And, yes, I did feel at the time I was searching that the "NOB CAES" was odd for Maximianus.

    Admittedly, I do not focus my collection and interest in the Roman Empire period. Rather, my passion is the Roman Republic and those entities that interacted with them at that time. So, again, everyone's kind help aided me in learning a little more of the Empire coins.

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    Thank you @Al Kowsky , @Victor_Clark , @Orange Julius , and @Heliodromus for helping my identification! You were all very helpful. I even learned the subtle difference between Large and Small Head. Mine looks to be a FATHEAD.

    Roman Imperial
    Galerius
    299-303 CE
    AE Follis 28mm 9.9g
    CARTHAGE mint
    O: MAXIMIANVS NOB CAES (Large Head type)
    R: Cartago holding fruit SALVIS AGG ET CAESS FEL KART
    RIC VI 32b Sear 14411
     

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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you. Nice one!

    GREAT GROUP, Dude! Unfortunately, since mine was misattributed, LOL, yours and mine are not the same. CONCLUSION: I LIED! :)

    Thanks, Mat. Great looking Follis of Constantius.
     
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  18. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice coin @Alegandron - as for me, I have no Carthage coins, either B.C.E. or C.E. Need to remedy that.
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I got absorbed when I read the struggles between Rome and Carthage during the 3 Punic Wars. This interest started back in H.S. for me. Very interesting History... It reinforced my interest in the Roman Republic, and fascinated me if this "Other Empire" would had won... Sadly, in the end, Rome exterminated Carthage in the 3rd Punic War, killing approx 350,000 people, and selling the remaining 50,000 into slavery. Nasty.
     
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  20. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    That's really tough. I did translate Livy in 3rd year Latin in high school. I went to a Catholic school where of course, they had Latin in the curriculum.
     
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  21. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

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