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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 799813, member: 112"]A word of guidance - if you wish to learn about grading these early Walkers in circulated states, you must first understand what they look like in MS states. For you cannot judge the amount of remaining detail on a circ coin if you do not know how much detail is supposed to be there in MS condition. And it is extremely important to always keep in mind that there are several date/mint issues that are known for weak strikes and these must be graded accordingly/differently than the others. There is probably more that you have to know about Walkers than any other coin if you wish to be able to grade them correctly. </p><p><br /></p><p>I would say that even the professionals make mistakes for this same reason.</p><p><br /></p><p>So go to Heritage, look up these coins like the 1919-D in say MS66, then open separate windows and look at one like the 1946 in MS66. You will see astounding differences. </p><p><br /></p><p>And this I cannot stress enough, <u>you have to know what the design changes were and when they were made</u> - there are many. This is even more important than knowing what date/mint issues have weak strikes. Otherwise you will find yourself trying to grade a given date/mint based on the wrong information. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here are a few of those changes - </p><p><br /></p><p><i>1916-1917 Walker, low relief obverse</i></p><p><i>Heavily textured fields and devices.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>-1918 Walker, revised collar details </i></p><p><i>Details around Liberty's collar altered.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>-1919-1921 Walker, hand cut skirt lines</i></p><p><i>Skirt lines apparently hand cut onto the master tooling. Early die stage examples of this date range give the impression that the coin has</i></p><p><i>been re-engraved.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>1923-1936 Obv skirt lines redrawn</i></p><p><i>Not noted in Breen or Bruce Fox's book. Plain enough to see. New skirt lines added at the front bottom of the skirt. Skirt lines not as bold as 1919-1921, but it is not clear if that is because of wear to the tooling or if the tooling was recut.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>You can find the rest of these changes - <a href="http://users.scronline.com/lockem/20thcentury.txt" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://users.scronline.com/lockem/20thcentury.txt" rel="nofollow">HERE</a> (scroll down three quarters of the way)</p><p><br /></p><p>This link is one that everyone there is should have. For the same is true of all our coins. The designs were frequently changed and unless you know what those changes are and on what coins they apply to and what ones they don't apply to - you can't possibly grade the coins correctly. This is only one of the reasons why so many people cannot grade coins accurately.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 799813, member: 112"]A word of guidance - if you wish to learn about grading these early Walkers in circulated states, you must first understand what they look like in MS states. For you cannot judge the amount of remaining detail on a circ coin if you do not know how much detail is supposed to be there in MS condition. And it is extremely important to always keep in mind that there are several date/mint issues that are known for weak strikes and these must be graded accordingly/differently than the others. There is probably more that you have to know about Walkers than any other coin if you wish to be able to grade them correctly. I would say that even the professionals make mistakes for this same reason. So go to Heritage, look up these coins like the 1919-D in say MS66, then open separate windows and look at one like the 1946 in MS66. You will see astounding differences. And this I cannot stress enough, [U]you have to know what the design changes were and when they were made[/U] - there are many. This is even more important than knowing what date/mint issues have weak strikes. Otherwise you will find yourself trying to grade a given date/mint based on the wrong information. Here are a few of those changes - [I]1916-1917 Walker, low relief obverse Heavily textured fields and devices. -1918 Walker, revised collar details Details around Liberty's collar altered. -1919-1921 Walker, hand cut skirt lines Skirt lines apparently hand cut onto the master tooling. Early die stage examples of this date range give the impression that the coin has been re-engraved. 1923-1936 Obv skirt lines redrawn Not noted in Breen or Bruce Fox's book. Plain enough to see. New skirt lines added at the front bottom of the skirt. Skirt lines not as bold as 1919-1921, but it is not clear if that is because of wear to the tooling or if the tooling was recut.[/I] You can find the rest of these changes - [URL="http://users.scronline.com/lockem/20thcentury.txt"]HERE[/URL] (scroll down three quarters of the way) This link is one that everyone there is should have. For the same is true of all our coins. The designs were frequently changed and unless you know what those changes are and on what coins they apply to and what ones they don't apply to - you can't possibly grade the coins correctly. This is only one of the reasons why so many people cannot grade coins accurately.[/QUOTE]
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