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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 4744645, member: 99456"]An enviable "consolation coin", [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER]. You raise good questions about the scene -<a href="https://archive.org/details/descriptionhisto01babe/page/508/mode/2up" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://archive.org/details/descriptionhisto01babe/page/508/mode/2up" rel="nofollow"> Babelon</a> agrees with Crawford on the relationship between the three - did they know something that we don't know about the scene? Who is Roman and who not in the scene?</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><font size="3"><i>"Cavalier galopant à droit, et brandissant un javelot contre un ennemi armé d’un casque gallois et d’un bouclier ovale, qui est sur le point d’égorger un troisième combatant renversé a terre et sans armes"</i></font></p><p><font size="3"><i>"Galloping horseman to the right, and wielding a spear against an enemy armed with a Gallic helmet and an oval shield, who is about to slaughter a third fighter knocked down and unarmed"</i></font></p><p><font size="3">-<a href="https://archive.org/details/descriptionhisto01babe/page/508/mode/2up" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://archive.org/details/descriptionhisto01babe/page/508/mode/2up" rel="nofollow">Babelon</a></font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>There are other scenes of Romans in battles like this one e.g. from 168 BC discussed in</p><p><font size="3">Michael J. Taylor. (2016). <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.2972/hesperia.85.3.0559" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.2972/hesperia.85.3.0559" rel="nofollow">The Battle Scene on Aemilius Paullus's Pydna Monument: A Reevaluation</a>. <i>Hesperia: The Journal of the American School of Classical Studies at Athens,</i> <i>85</i>(3), 559-576.</font></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't suggest that the scene on the coin is connected to this scene - only that it has a battle scene with some common elements (fallen, naked, Gauls, Romans on horse and on foot, non-Roman cavalrymen) and debate about the interpretation of who is on which side doing what to whom....11-Roman, 12-Gallic, 13-Roman, 14-Macedonian, 15-Roman.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1159489[/ATTACH]</p><p>Here are my coins of this type:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1159433[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1159434[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3"><b>P. Fonteius P.f. Capito and T. Didius</b>, AR denarius , 55 BC</font></p><p><font size="3"><b>Obv:</b> P·FONTEIVS·P·F – CAPITO·III·VIR, helmeted and draped bust of Mars right, with trophy over shoulder</font></p><p><font size="3"><b>Rev: </b>MN – FONT·TR·MIL, horseman thrusting spear at enemy who is about to slay unarmed captive; in right field, helmet and oval shield</font></p><p><font size="3"><b>Ref: </b>Crawford 429/1.</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 4744645, member: 99456"]An enviable "consolation coin", [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER]. You raise good questions about the scene -[URL='https://archive.org/details/descriptionhisto01babe/page/508/mode/2up'] Babelon[/URL] agrees with Crawford on the relationship between the three - did they know something that we don't know about the scene? Who is Roman and who not in the scene? [INDENT][SIZE=3][I]"Cavalier galopant à droit, et brandissant un javelot contre un ennemi armé d’un casque gallois et d’un bouclier ovale, qui est sur le point d’égorger un troisième combatant renversé a terre et sans armes"[/I] [I]"Galloping horseman to the right, and wielding a spear against an enemy armed with a Gallic helmet and an oval shield, who is about to slaughter a third fighter knocked down and unarmed"[/I] -[URL='https://archive.org/details/descriptionhisto01babe/page/508/mode/2up']Babelon[/URL][/SIZE][/INDENT] There are other scenes of Romans in battles like this one e.g. from 168 BC discussed in [SIZE=3]Michael J. Taylor. (2016). [URL='https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.2972/hesperia.85.3.0559']The Battle Scene on Aemilius Paullus's Pydna Monument: A Reevaluation[/URL]. [I]Hesperia: The Journal of the American School of Classical Studies at Athens,[/I] [I]85[/I](3), 559-576.[/SIZE] I don't suggest that the scene on the coin is connected to this scene - only that it has a battle scene with some common elements (fallen, naked, Gauls, Romans on horse and on foot, non-Roman cavalrymen) and debate about the interpretation of who is on which side doing what to whom....11-Roman, 12-Gallic, 13-Roman, 14-Macedonian, 15-Roman. [ATTACH=full]1159489[/ATTACH] Here are my coins of this type: [ATTACH=full]1159433[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1159434[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][B]P. Fonteius P.f. Capito and T. Didius[/B], AR denarius , 55 BC [B]Obv:[/B] P·FONTEIVS·P·F – CAPITO·III·VIR, helmeted and draped bust of Mars right, with trophy over shoulder [B]Rev: [/B]MN – FONT·TR·MIL, horseman thrusting spear at enemy who is about to slay unarmed captive; in right field, helmet and oval shield [B]Ref: [/B]Crawford 429/1.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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