My first Domitian quinarius!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Orfew, May 25, 2020.

  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Hi all,

    I have been buying up many rare Domitian denarii for the past few years and have really enjoyed the hunt for them. However, there was a glaring omission in my collection...I had no Domitian quinarii.

    Last night I was searching the unsold lots from different auction houses in the last few months. I stumbled across this one. It was in an INumis sale on March 3. Though on the website it was not available for purchase, I decided to ask anyway. I did and now the coin is mine. It is quite a rare coin. There are 2 on Acsearch (one could be RIC 560 [VESP] or my type RIC 790 [VESP]), 1 mentioned in RIC, and 0 in the Forum Ancient Coins gallery. There is 1 on OCRE but it is the RIC plate coin mentioned above.

    Needless to say I am very pleased to grab this one for my collection. I love the colouring on it and it will be kept the way it is.

    Please post your imperial or republican quinarii.

    Domitian AR Quinarius 75 CE
    (14mm 1.48g)
    Obv: Laureate head right; CAES AVG F DOMIT COS III
    Rev: Victory advancing right with wreath and palm; VICTORIA AVGVSTI
    RIC 790 [VESP]
    Purchased from INumis May 25, 2020

    D790 vesp.jpg
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    That's a nice catch & cool little coin all around, congrats.
  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    GREAT JOB, Andrew!!! As you may know, I am kinda a fan of Quinarii. That is a super one, and are a little more difficult to find.

    I do not have one from the Dom, but I have one from his father:

    Roman Empire
    Vespasian 69-79 CE
    AR Quinarius 1.58g
    Laureate Head
    VICTORIA AVGVST Victory seated L , holding wreath and palm
    RIC 802, King 16B, Rare
    Ex: Pegasus; Ex: FSR
  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    As I primarily collect the 2nd and 3rd centuries, I don't have many quinarii. But I do have one of these -- like everybody else!

    Gaius Egnatuleius, c.f. 97 BC.
    Roman Republican AR quinarius, 1.68 g, 14.6 mm, 11 h.
    Rome, 97 BC.
    Obv: C·EGNATVLEI·C·F·Q, Laureate head of Apollo, right.
    Rev: Victory left, inscribing shield attached to trophy; beside trophy, carnyx; Q in center field; ROMA in exergue.
    Refs: Crawford RRC 333/1; Sydenham CRR 588; BMCRR1 1076-77; Sear RCV 213.
    Notes: In the obverse inscription, NAT and VL as monograms. Issued to honor Marius' victories over the Teutones and Ambrones at Aquae Sextiae in 102 B.C. and the Cimbri at Vercellae in 101 B.C. Crawford suggests this issue financed settlement of Marius' veterans, partly in Cisalpine Gaul. Sear (p. 113) notes, "The duplication of 'Q' suggests that on the reverse it may be intended as a mark of value rather than the designation of the issuer as a quaestor."
  6. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Spectacular, Orfew!
    Particularly the portrait!!!
    Great catch!
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  7. Gary R. Wilson


    I'm the one who got the Galba quinarius from the John Anthony auction recently. Very happy to have it.

    Galba Silver_quinarius 14.8mm. 1.587g.png

    Galba (Augustus)
    Coin: Silver Quinarius
    SER • GALBA • IMP • CAESAR • AVG • P • M • T • P • - Laureate head right.
    VICTORIA GALBAE • AVG - Victory standing right on globe, holding palm frond and wreath.
    Mint: Lugdunum (68-69 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 1.59g / 14.8mm / 240
    Rarity: R2
    RIC I 132 (Lugdunum)
    King 1
    RSC I 317
    BMCRE I 244
    BnF III 63
    Beast Coins
    Forvm Ancient Coins
    the Sallent Collection
    Acquisition/Sale: JAZ Numismatics CoinTalk 158 #7 $0.00 03/20
    Notes: Mar 27, 20 - The Gary R. Wilson Collection

    Struck circa November AD 68-15 January AD 69.

  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Nice one, @Gary R. Wilson !

    I got mine from @Brian Bucklan ...

    RI GALBA AR Quinarius Lugdunum mint laureate r Victory globe stdng left 15mm 1.5g SCARCE
  9. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Many thanks @PeteB
  10. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Thanks Brian, I do not have one for Vespasian. Yours is very nice.
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  11. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Well, the coin arrived today. I believed that the seller had misattributed this coin as RIC 560 when it was RIC 790. However, after taking my own photograph I realized that their photo made the obverse legend appear to read COS III when it was COS II after all. Which means the coin is RIC 560 [VESPASIAN].

    RIC 790 [VESP] is R while 560 is R2. RIC refers to 2 examples of RIC 560. One from the British Museum photo file and one in Paris. Mine is the only confirmed example on Acsearch. (there is one other example that be either 560 or 790 because the COS II or II is off flan). There is one on OCRE but it is the British Museum example cited in RIC.

    I know of 3 examples total. Can you find any more?

    Here are the updated photos.

    Domitian RIC 560 VESP Obv.jpg D 560 VESP rev.jpg
  12. curtislclay

    curtislclay Well-Known Member

    King 33 cites the BM spec. (in their coll. not photofile as you say) and Paris like RIC, plus a third in Arethusa 3, 25 Nov. 1994, lot 195, wt. 1.44g. Not impossibly the same coin as yours weighing 1.48g according to the dealer, but it may be difficult to locate a copy of the sale cat. to compare.
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  13. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Thanks for the correction Curtis. I wrote this before checking BMC. I see their example is Plate 3 no. 19. It is mentioned in the notes on P.23.

    I will see if I can find a copy of the catalogue.
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