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<p>[QUOTE="SwendiCoin, post: 671782, member: 18768"]In preparation for my first coin show I made a spreadsheet of prices for various grades of the coins I'm interested in. And that would be Morgan silver dollars. I first gathered prices from the PCGS website. Looked up a bunch of on-line auctions to see what recent prices were. Afterwards, I did a spot check on some of them with the prices in the 2010 red book. The ones I checked were the same or a little higher than the PCGS prices. Thus, I decided to just take my 2-page spreadsheet in with me and leave the red book in the car.</p><p> </p><p>This worked pretty good. As I went through the tables checking prices and asking what they really wanted, I would write notes on my spreadsheet about the good deals.</p><p> </p><p>Question 1 - One of my "good" deals was an 1897 MS65 (NGC slab) for $290. I did not have any auction results for this grade, but the PCGS price is $350. I really liked the coin, so I pulled the trigger. Later I checked my prices for the specific coins I purchased against the red book. Uh oh! The red book price for this same coin is $185. How often does one see such a big discrepency in prices like this?</p><p> </p><p>Question 1B - So did I do okay on that price? I just looked up prices at NumsMedia and they have it at $363. So I'm hoping there was a typo in the red book.</p><p> </p><p>Question 2 - I had good luck picking up common date MS64 (NGC and PCGS) Morgans for $50 or a little under. But one dealer had one priced at $70 (PCGS is $65 and auctions sold at around $50 for the coin). I asked if that was his real asking price. He said for me to make an offer. I offered $50. From his response, you would have thought I had just insulted his mother! I got a lecture about needing to make a living, etc., etc. Anyway, I moved on. My question here is, how do you all deal with someone like this?</p><p> </p><p>Question 3 - Another dealer had a lot of slabbed Morgans. Maybe 200 or more. He had prices written on labels on the slabs. Most were 20% or higher than the PCGS prices. I asked if those were his real prices. He said that they were pretty much except that he could probably work with me a little. I ended up just moving on past his table too. I just did not feel like having to bargain with someone just to get the prices down to the PCGS prices which I feel are already inflated. I mean this guy had common date Morgans $100 or more where PCGS has them listed at $65. What would you have done? Should I have at least asked if he would take $50 on a couple of them?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>In summary, I had a great time looking. I managed to pick up 10 Morgans and except for the 1897, I think I did pretty good. I probably over paid on a couple, but they were really nice looking coins, so I don't mind.</p><p> </p><p>I also noticed that the friendlier the dealer, the less I minded paying a little more for the coin. Is that a trap one has to watch out for, or just part of the experience?</p><p> </p><p>Thanks for listening![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SwendiCoin, post: 671782, member: 18768"]In preparation for my first coin show I made a spreadsheet of prices for various grades of the coins I'm interested in. And that would be Morgan silver dollars. I first gathered prices from the PCGS website. Looked up a bunch of on-line auctions to see what recent prices were. Afterwards, I did a spot check on some of them with the prices in the 2010 red book. The ones I checked were the same or a little higher than the PCGS prices. Thus, I decided to just take my 2-page spreadsheet in with me and leave the red book in the car. This worked pretty good. As I went through the tables checking prices and asking what they really wanted, I would write notes on my spreadsheet about the good deals. Question 1 - One of my "good" deals was an 1897 MS65 (NGC slab) for $290. I did not have any auction results for this grade, but the PCGS price is $350. I really liked the coin, so I pulled the trigger. Later I checked my prices for the specific coins I purchased against the red book. Uh oh! The red book price for this same coin is $185. How often does one see such a big discrepency in prices like this? Question 1B - So did I do okay on that price? I just looked up prices at NumsMedia and they have it at $363. So I'm hoping there was a typo in the red book. Question 2 - I had good luck picking up common date MS64 (NGC and PCGS) Morgans for $50 or a little under. But one dealer had one priced at $70 (PCGS is $65 and auctions sold at around $50 for the coin). I asked if that was his real asking price. He said for me to make an offer. I offered $50. From his response, you would have thought I had just insulted his mother! I got a lecture about needing to make a living, etc., etc. Anyway, I moved on. My question here is, how do you all deal with someone like this? Question 3 - Another dealer had a lot of slabbed Morgans. Maybe 200 or more. He had prices written on labels on the slabs. Most were 20% or higher than the PCGS prices. I asked if those were his real prices. He said that they were pretty much except that he could probably work with me a little. I ended up just moving on past his table too. I just did not feel like having to bargain with someone just to get the prices down to the PCGS prices which I feel are already inflated. I mean this guy had common date Morgans $100 or more where PCGS has them listed at $65. What would you have done? Should I have at least asked if he would take $50 on a couple of them? In summary, I had a great time looking. I managed to pick up 10 Morgans and except for the 1897, I think I did pretty good. I probably over paid on a couple, but they were really nice looking coins, so I don't mind. I also noticed that the friendlier the dealer, the less I minded paying a little more for the coin. Is that a trap one has to watch out for, or just part of the experience? Thanks for listening![/QUOTE]
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