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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Prez2, post: 3170224, member: 93969&quot;]Okay. I appreciate the response and that&#039;s that. Facts though I contend are points or subject matter mutually agree to (in general). Voiding someone else&#039;s perspective entirely akin to creating your own facts in my opinion. I appreciate many points of view when&nbsp; I&#039;m seeking information about a particular topic and yes I would say that I alone determine what those &#039;facts&#039; actually are all is said and done, whether or not it is agreed with or not. You&#039;ve tried to explain yourself towards this particular point and I do appreciate it, along with any counterpoints. Determining what facts are and what they aren&#039;t seems like some kind of game we all play these days and it&#039;s not hard to figure out why that is. I just think information from any source is worth considering and I do so here and accept their information even though I may not like it or disagree with their particular point of view. Accepting it doesn&#039;t mean I call it fact though and this is where it gets muddy, that is who determines the facts in the first place? You differ greatly from the one in question here and yet I extract information from both sides considering them valid for what they are or what they represent that they are. So, to me the whole &#039;purists&#039; thing seemingly equates to &#039;old school&#039; versus new. I think both views are valid in their own right. I love information so keep throwing your views at me. I imagine it all would shake out eventually and the true &#039;facts&#039; would show themselves to whomever is interpreting the facts. I like your version of the facts and also some of his views. I guess in the future I need to qualify my questions with something like &#039;popular facts&#039; versus &#039;indisputable facts&#039; versus &#039;facts based on opinion&#039;. It&#039;s a shame there seem to be no universal facts when it comes to what is universally accepted as fact. I just want to know the facts and they escape me more and more these days. Appreciate it and keep &#039;em coming![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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