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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7804848, member: 19463"]Thanks to all. The point here is there are two very different 'errors' at play. When a coin is struck twice in the mint at one time within a second or two of each other, we call that a 'double strike'. They can show a small shift or a huge offset or rotation even including being flipped over so each side got a reverse and an obverse. My best example is this denarius of Septimius Severus with Mars Pater on both sides.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1340488[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The other 'situation' I prefer not to call an error because it was quite intentional. That is when an earlier coin is used to 'overstrike' using another die set. This could occur within seconds if a coin from team A 'jumped' into the flan supply basket of team B working nearby at the same time but usually 'overstrikes' were done to convert old, obsolete coins into the current fashion. A standard example of this is my Constantius Gallus falling horseman that converted the earlier period Constantius II left facing / two captives issue upgrading its denomination when the weight standard for FH had declined to match the middle size denomination of the first period.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1340494[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>You must be tired of seeing my claim to the record for this sort of thing - the Anonymous Class A3 follis overstruck on as as of Gordian III (a gap of nearly 790 years). [ATTACH=full]1340486[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>What made my newly purchased 'different' is it seemed to be an overstrike with two reverses but possibly the same obverse and part of the same issue probably in production at the same time. Why would the mint do that? If the obverse die can be identified with certainty as the same, the 'team of three' theory seems possible. I showed an Arcadius I believe to be 'team of three' and have many times here shown another candidate I consider even better: My Constantius II/Constantius Gallus pairing. The 'situation' here would require that the issue was made using the reverse on the anvil and the obverse on top (some were) AND that the falling horseman reverse involved only one die. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1340491[/ATTACH] </p><p>The above is one of my most favorite of my favorite coins and, dollar for dollar (it cost $5) my best buy. Certainly I wish it had better surfaces and had cost $10 but we take what we can find. It has legend clearly showing NOB CAES of Gallus but a laurel wreath of Constantius II. Rare coins are difficult but the impossible are harder to find. What makes this a favorite of mine is that it shows that it is not necessary to spend big money to enjoy this hobby if you value things other than a MS 5/5 5/5 label. I'll never know what these would bring at auction (probably less than the seller's fee) and hope someday to meet a young person who wants them as a gift when they 'become available'. </p><p><br /></p><p>Errors are fun. Overstrikes are not errors but seem appropriate to collect alongside errors. I call this 'technical' collecting and encourage you all to ignore the possibility of gathering coins of the like. I do not need the competition.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie50" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7804848, member: 19463"]Thanks to all. The point here is there are two very different 'errors' at play. When a coin is struck twice in the mint at one time within a second or two of each other, we call that a 'double strike'. They can show a small shift or a huge offset or rotation even including being flipped over so each side got a reverse and an obverse. My best example is this denarius of Septimius Severus with Mars Pater on both sides. [ATTACH=full]1340488[/ATTACH] The other 'situation' I prefer not to call an error because it was quite intentional. That is when an earlier coin is used to 'overstrike' using another die set. This could occur within seconds if a coin from team A 'jumped' into the flan supply basket of team B working nearby at the same time but usually 'overstrikes' were done to convert old, obsolete coins into the current fashion. A standard example of this is my Constantius Gallus falling horseman that converted the earlier period Constantius II left facing / two captives issue upgrading its denomination when the weight standard for FH had declined to match the middle size denomination of the first period. [ATTACH=full]1340494[/ATTACH] You must be tired of seeing my claim to the record for this sort of thing - the Anonymous Class A3 follis overstruck on as as of Gordian III (a gap of nearly 790 years). [ATTACH=full]1340486[/ATTACH] What made my newly purchased 'different' is it seemed to be an overstrike with two reverses but possibly the same obverse and part of the same issue probably in production at the same time. Why would the mint do that? If the obverse die can be identified with certainty as the same, the 'team of three' theory seems possible. I showed an Arcadius I believe to be 'team of three' and have many times here shown another candidate I consider even better: My Constantius II/Constantius Gallus pairing. The 'situation' here would require that the issue was made using the reverse on the anvil and the obverse on top (some were) AND that the falling horseman reverse involved only one die. [ATTACH=full]1340491[/ATTACH] The above is one of my most favorite of my favorite coins and, dollar for dollar (it cost $5) my best buy. Certainly I wish it had better surfaces and had cost $10 but we take what we can find. It has legend clearly showing NOB CAES of Gallus but a laurel wreath of Constantius II. Rare coins are difficult but the impossible are harder to find. What makes this a favorite of mine is that it shows that it is not necessary to spend big money to enjoy this hobby if you value things other than a MS 5/5 5/5 label. I'll never know what these would bring at auction (probably less than the seller's fee) and hope someday to meet a young person who wants them as a gift when they 'become available'. Errors are fun. Overstrikes are not errors but seem appropriate to collect alongside errors. I call this 'technical' collecting and encourage you all to ignore the possibility of gathering coins of the like. I do not need the competition.:happy:[/QUOTE]
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