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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3029938, member: 24314"]Shucks, I was going to bed. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>AnonymousCoinCollector, posted: "While I appreiate the insight into how TPGs grade, and am looking forward to your detailed analysis, it comes off as a little odd to me that much of your initial defense (for lack of a better word) is "well they do it too!!! See!!!"</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">As I wrote, IMHO, there is nothing to defend (lack of better word) as if I remember (we'll see tomorrow) I only disagreed with one grade assigned to the coins in the office. I'm taking the time to explain the real world inside the grading room to folks who were not there. My intro post and your post crossed so I'm going to answer this. </span></p><p><br /></p><p>"Yes, we all know grading can at times be highly subjective." <span style="color: #0000ff">That's what we are going to discuss. Fortunately, the closer a person's subjective grading is to the TPGS and the commercial market, the better his/her SUBJECTIVE OPINION will be.</span></p><p>"The truth of the matter is that ICG is <i>barely</i> considered a legitimate grading company. They are not in the same league as PCGS or NGC."</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">It appears that you don't live in the southern US and attend shows there. I'm sorry that you and others feel that ICG is a dump. The truth is that in spite of my protestations the owner of our company likes things just the way they are and is content with our position which may or may not be as you believe. We all have opinions. I read yours. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </span><span style="color: #0000b3"> </span></p><p><br /></p><p>"You therefore (going forward) have to be better than these other grading companies in terms of expectations and results, because they have a better reputation which results in higher values for identical coins with identical grades. More of the same won't get you anywhere."</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <span style="color: #0000ff">If you knew anything about the commercial coin market and the folks who make the rules you would know that ICG, SEGS, and ANACS could pay you $50 for each coin you submitted to them and then slab your coins for free plus pay the postage both ways and</span> <b><i><u><span style="color: #ff0000">NOTHING WOULD CHANGE</span></u></i></b>. I<span style="color: #0000ff"> hope I made this very simple for you to grasp. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">As I wrote above, I have nothing to defend. I'm going to try to explain how the OP's coins were graded. I should be very helpful. I'll look forward to more posts from you also.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3029938, member: 24314"]Shucks, I was going to bed. :hilarious::hilarious: AnonymousCoinCollector, posted: "While I appreiate the insight into how TPGs grade, and am looking forward to your detailed analysis, it comes off as a little odd to me that much of your initial defense (for lack of a better word) is "well they do it too!!! See!!!" [COLOR=#0000ff]As I wrote, IMHO, there is nothing to defend (lack of better word) as if I remember (we'll see tomorrow) I only disagreed with one grade assigned to the coins in the office. I'm taking the time to explain the real world inside the grading room to folks who were not there. My intro post and your post crossed so I'm going to answer this. [/COLOR] "Yes, we all know grading can at times be highly subjective." [COLOR=#0000ff]That's what we are going to discuss. Fortunately, the closer a person's subjective grading is to the TPGS and the commercial market, the better his/her SUBJECTIVE OPINION will be.[/COLOR] "The truth of the matter is that ICG is [I]barely[/I] considered a legitimate grading company. They are not in the same league as PCGS or NGC." [COLOR=#0000ff]It appears that you don't live in the southern US and attend shows there. I'm sorry that you and others feel that ICG is a dump. The truth is that in spite of my protestations the owner of our company likes things just the way they are and is content with our position which may or may not be as you believe. We all have opinions. I read yours. :wacky: [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000b3] [/COLOR] "You therefore (going forward) have to be better than these other grading companies in terms of expectations and results, because they have a better reputation which results in higher values for identical coins with identical grades. More of the same won't get you anywhere." :rolleyes: :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: [COLOR=#0000ff]If you knew anything about the commercial coin market and the folks who make the rules you would know that ICG, SEGS, and ANACS could pay you $50 for each coin you submitted to them and then slab your coins for free plus pay the postage both ways and[/COLOR] [B][I][U][COLOR=#ff0000]NOTHING WOULD CHANGE[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B]. I[COLOR=#0000ff] hope I made this very simple for you to grasp. :kiss: As I wrote above, I have nothing to defend. I'm going to try to explain how the OP's coins were graded. I should be very helpful. I'll look forward to more posts from you also. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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