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<p>[QUOTE="Barry Murphy, post: 24557038, member: 79368"]I find it curious that you're more annoyed at the lack of a pedigree than you are about being sold a fourre as an authentic coin. Anyway, concerning the pedigree, NGC requires more proof than "CNG says so" on a coin that comes from a famous collection and auction catalog. Had you submitted the original Stack's ticket, or had CNG included the other coins from the lot in their sale so the lot could be pieced together in way that made them look like the JQA coins, or even if JQA had included a weight in their description that could be matched up, we would have included the pedigree. Unforunately, all we have is CNG who is relying on the collector who has no evidence of any kind to go on, or at least didn't provide any. If you want to send the coin back in, we would be happy to put the CNG pedigree on the ticket which would then link it to the JQA collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>Concerning East Harp Tree hoard, this hoard was sold primarily intact and CNG ended up with the bulk of the hoard. All the coins have a very similar patina and can easily be identified as coming from the hoard. As CNG owned the hoard and has no reason to salt the hoard with non-hoard coins, we feel confident that the coins that they say came from the hoard actually came from the hoard. </p><p><br /></p><p>NGC includes provable pedigrees on labels all the time. Concerning the Eid Mar aureus, when that was submitted Roma submitted it with the supposed pedigree. As none of it was verifiable, we didn't include it on the ticket.</p><p><br /></p><p>Barry Murphy[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Barry Murphy, post: 24557038, member: 79368"]I find it curious that you're more annoyed at the lack of a pedigree than you are about being sold a fourre as an authentic coin. Anyway, concerning the pedigree, NGC requires more proof than "CNG says so" on a coin that comes from a famous collection and auction catalog. Had you submitted the original Stack's ticket, or had CNG included the other coins from the lot in their sale so the lot could be pieced together in way that made them look like the JQA coins, or even if JQA had included a weight in their description that could be matched up, we would have included the pedigree. Unforunately, all we have is CNG who is relying on the collector who has no evidence of any kind to go on, or at least didn't provide any. If you want to send the coin back in, we would be happy to put the CNG pedigree on the ticket which would then link it to the JQA collection. Concerning East Harp Tree hoard, this hoard was sold primarily intact and CNG ended up with the bulk of the hoard. All the coins have a very similar patina and can easily be identified as coming from the hoard. As CNG owned the hoard and has no reason to salt the hoard with non-hoard coins, we feel confident that the coins that they say came from the hoard actually came from the hoard. NGC includes provable pedigrees on labels all the time. Concerning the Eid Mar aureus, when that was submitted Roma submitted it with the supposed pedigree. As none of it was verifiable, we didn't include it on the ticket. Barry Murphy[/QUOTE]
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