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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2140868, member: 27832"]See, this is what creeps me out about going back to <i>selling</i> on eBay.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=44104]@aubade21[/USER] has a good reputation here, so <i>we</i> can assume that everything unfolded as he described. Given the seller's terminology ("die mistakes", "stems go all around rim"), we can also assume that the seller doesn't know what he's doing.</p><p><br /></p><p>But what about a random eBay Buyer Protection customer-service rep, who knows nothing about either individual or about numismatics? There's a buyer who says "I got a coin that wasn't as described", and a seller who said "I sent what I described, the buyer is trying to scam me with a coin swap". How can they tell which side to believe?</p><p><br /></p><p>From what I've read here and experienced myself, eBay will side with the buyer. But what if the situation were reversed, with one of our well-known members selling a good coin, and an unknown buyer trying to do an <i>actual</i> coin-swap scam? As far as I can tell, there's no way for the seller to defend himself to eBay. That scares the heck out of me.</p><p><br /></p><p>If I <i>do</i> go back to selling on eBay, I'll post really clear photos (because I have that capability), and I'll have the ability to photograph both the coin I sell and the coin I receive in return. I don't see how this will help, though, because how would eBay know that <i>I'm</i> not scamming <i>them</i> by doing a coin-swap on <i>my</i> end?</p><p><br /></p><p>Since plenty of people still buy and sell successfully on eBay, I assume this kind of fraud is still the exception rather than the rule. But as long as this loophole is open, eBay will attract more scammers. I'd hate to be caught holding the bag when and if they finally achieve the majority.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2140868, member: 27832"]See, this is what creeps me out about going back to [I]selling[/I] on eBay. [USER=44104]@aubade21[/USER] has a good reputation here, so [I]we[/I] can assume that everything unfolded as he described. Given the seller's terminology ("die mistakes", "stems go all around rim"), we can also assume that the seller doesn't know what he's doing. But what about a random eBay Buyer Protection customer-service rep, who knows nothing about either individual or about numismatics? There's a buyer who says "I got a coin that wasn't as described", and a seller who said "I sent what I described, the buyer is trying to scam me with a coin swap". How can they tell which side to believe? From what I've read here and experienced myself, eBay will side with the buyer. But what if the situation were reversed, with one of our well-known members selling a good coin, and an unknown buyer trying to do an [I]actual[/I] coin-swap scam? As far as I can tell, there's no way for the seller to defend himself to eBay. That scares the heck out of me. If I [I]do[/I] go back to selling on eBay, I'll post really clear photos (because I have that capability), and I'll have the ability to photograph both the coin I sell and the coin I receive in return. I don't see how this will help, though, because how would eBay know that [I]I'm[/I] not scamming [I]them[/I] by doing a coin-swap on [I]my[/I] end? Since plenty of people still buy and sell successfully on eBay, I assume this kind of fraud is still the exception rather than the rule. But as long as this loophole is open, eBay will attract more scammers. I'd hate to be caught holding the bag when and if they finally achieve the majority.[/QUOTE]
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