Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
My crazy noob question: Any chance this is an impaired proof?
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Paddy54, post: 2961255, member: 19250"]First this is an RPD 001 cross reference: V-5 Breen 3039</p><p>#1 Valentine obv. Small date,medium spaced,all numerals show they have been twice punched,and the 5 looks as if had been made over from a 3.</p><p>Rev. Heavy lettering</p><p>1845 number of working dies...[ Is unknown]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Die markers none noted either obv./ rev.</p><p>Mintage 1,564,000 business strikes. proofs ?</p><p>There's no records of the number of proof coins struck in 1845</p><p>Nor is it from 1837- 1857</p><p>1858 300 proofs struck</p><p>1859 800</p><p>1860 1000</p><p>1861 1000</p><p>1862 550</p><p>Breen</p><p>3039:</p><p>1845 double date v-5</p><p>Often sold as 1845/3 but the extra fragments at 5 do not match the 3 of the 1843.</p><p>The extra curve at r.of5 shown on the Valentine plate has not been fou d on any survivor from these dies ; possibly foreign matter on plate coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Type lll obv. Used 1840- 1853 type ll reverse used 1840-1859</p><p>My reference shows between NGC & PCGS only 12 half dimes have been certified as proofs...</p><p>Between 1843-1849 it is not known if proofs were sold entirely in sets or individually ,or both.</p><p>One complete set was struck each year for the mint cabinet. Most likely several complete sets were struck and a few coins for different denominations were left over and distributed.</p><p><br /></p><p>So once again we have a series where proofs were struck, Yet no records of how many, no record of number of die pairs, and most of all ..."proof " that the US mint has used proof dies before to strike MS coins after the fact.</p><p>I personally believe that you are most probability correct. That this specimen is either a proof strike circulated,or an MS coin nailed with fresh dies.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Paddy54, post: 2961255, member: 19250"]First this is an RPD 001 cross reference: V-5 Breen 3039 #1 Valentine obv. Small date,medium spaced,all numerals show they have been twice punched,and the 5 looks as if had been made over from a 3. Rev. Heavy lettering 1845 number of working dies...[ Is unknown] Die markers none noted either obv./ rev. Mintage 1,564,000 business strikes. proofs ? There's no records of the number of proof coins struck in 1845 Nor is it from 1837- 1857 1858 300 proofs struck 1859 800 1860 1000 1861 1000 1862 550 Breen 3039: 1845 double date v-5 Often sold as 1845/3 but the extra fragments at 5 do not match the 3 of the 1843. The extra curve at r.of5 shown on the Valentine plate has not been fou d on any survivor from these dies ; possibly foreign matter on plate coin. Type lll obv. Used 1840- 1853 type ll reverse used 1840-1859 My reference shows between NGC & PCGS only 12 half dimes have been certified as proofs... Between 1843-1849 it is not known if proofs were sold entirely in sets or individually ,or both. One complete set was struck each year for the mint cabinet. Most likely several complete sets were struck and a few coins for different denominations were left over and distributed. So once again we have a series where proofs were struck, Yet no records of how many, no record of number of die pairs, and most of all ..."proof " that the US mint has used proof dies before to strike MS coins after the fact. I personally believe that you are most probability correct. That this specimen is either a proof strike circulated,or an MS coin nailed with fresh dies.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
My crazy noob question: Any chance this is an impaired proof?
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...