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<p>[QUOTE="Numismat, post: 3089946, member: 15019"]A few years ago a made the dedicated choice to collect and study contemporary circulating counterfeits. While there has been some literature on the more common 8 reales and 2 reales CC pieces, not much is out there on these smaller denominations. Just wanted to share the examples I have picked up so far along this journey. I've posted these before individually on CCF and this thread is duplicated on CU. These are all struck from privately made dies and not the later design transfer and/or cast copies.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>1782 (MO-FF). The mint mark and assayer are not visible on this coin, but there are a few other examples documented which show it. Weight ~2.72 grams, white metal alloy</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]779476[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779477[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>1804 (MO-TH). As with the last one, mint/assayer not visible, but a few other documented examples. Very weakly struck, had to photograph it at a sharp angle to the light to clearly capture details. Weight ~2.57 grams, white metal alloy.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]779478[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779479[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Undated, likely NG-M. This is the only example I've been able to find of this type, as well as with Guatemala marks in general. One of two types known to me so far which do not bear Mexico mint and assayer marks. Weight ~2.48 grams, white metal alloy.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]779480[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779481[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>1809 NR-FJ (fantasy date). Also the only example I could find of this type and with Colombia marks. The second of two types known to me so far which do not bear Mexico mint and assayer marks. Weight ~2 grams, white metal alloy.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]779483[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779488[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>1833 (?) Zs-M. One of the more interesting pieces (IMO). The mint mark Z is slanted and the superscript S's all have dots above rather than below. Weight ~2.86, material uncertain. Tests positive for silver on magnetic slide, but may be plated with copper core. This one has an edge design, which is a sequence of rudimentary crescents or partial circles and dots.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]779496[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779497[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>10 image limit... last one as comment <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Numismat, post: 3089946, member: 15019"]A few years ago a made the dedicated choice to collect and study contemporary circulating counterfeits. While there has been some literature on the more common 8 reales and 2 reales CC pieces, not much is out there on these smaller denominations. Just wanted to share the examples I have picked up so far along this journey. I've posted these before individually on CCF and this thread is duplicated on CU. These are all struck from privately made dies and not the later design transfer and/or cast copies. 1782 (MO-FF). The mint mark and assayer are not visible on this coin, but there are a few other examples documented which show it. Weight ~2.72 grams, white metal alloy [ATTACH=full]779476[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779477[/ATTACH] 1804 (MO-TH). As with the last one, mint/assayer not visible, but a few other documented examples. Very weakly struck, had to photograph it at a sharp angle to the light to clearly capture details. Weight ~2.57 grams, white metal alloy. [ATTACH=full]779478[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779479[/ATTACH] Undated, likely NG-M. This is the only example I've been able to find of this type, as well as with Guatemala marks in general. One of two types known to me so far which do not bear Mexico mint and assayer marks. Weight ~2.48 grams, white metal alloy. [ATTACH=full]779480[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779481[/ATTACH] 1809 NR-FJ (fantasy date). Also the only example I could find of this type and with Colombia marks. The second of two types known to me so far which do not bear Mexico mint and assayer marks. Weight ~2 grams, white metal alloy. [ATTACH=full]779483[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779488[/ATTACH] 1833 (?) Zs-M. One of the more interesting pieces (IMO). The mint mark Z is slanted and the superscript S's all have dots above rather than below. Weight ~2.86, material uncertain. Tests positive for silver on magnetic slide, but may be plated with copper core. This one has an edge design, which is a sequence of rudimentary crescents or partial circles and dots. [ATTACH=full]779496[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]779497[/ATTACH] 10 image limit... last one as comment :([/QUOTE]
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