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Message:: [QUOTE="usmc60, post: 2916395, member: 76739"]What I'm trying to say is most of the excess metal goes up between the collar and die.The collar usually acts like a dam preventing the excess from going on the back side of this color straight.What I'm asking is how the collar strike can occur after the excess metal is over the edge before the strike. Since this is supposed to all be happening under extreme pressure. I can see how the three collar strikes can occur. Here is a good link.Collar strike<a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjHu5DOxcvXAhXLNSYKHVHIBPsQFgh3MBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.australian-coins.com%2Ferror-coins%2Fout-of-collar-or-partial-collar-coin-errors%2F&usg=AOvVaw3BquDV6l71kGZxnR94Hfuf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjHu5DOxcvXAhXLNSYKHVHIBPsQFgh3MBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.australian-coins.com%2Ferror-coins%2Fout-of-collar-or-partial-collar-coin-errors%2F&usg=AOvVaw3BquDV6l71kGZxnR94Hfuf" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjHu5DOxcvXAhXLNSYKHVHIBPsQFgh3MBA&url=https://www.australian-coins.com/error-coins/out-of-collar-or-partial-collar-coin-errors/&usg=AOvVaw3BquDV6l71kGZxnR94Hfuf</a> I'm just trying to see how this particular strike occurred.  USMC60[/QUOTE]