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<p>[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 1442057, member: 31533"]I totally agree. It was not NGC that ruined the coin. It was NCS. They are also supposed to return the conservation/grading fees to me as well as the amount I spent to send the coin back to have the splotchy mess taken off the coin. So I am waiting on an amount that is just over 62.00 to show up in my bank account. I called yesterday morning and spoke to Craig, again to confirm that that process was getting sped up. </p><p><br /></p><p>NGC doesn't have the 1999 WAM listed in their price guide on line, but PCGS does. The current values they list at a MS63 range from 215.00 to 410.00, depending on the color (not inclusive of their plus designations). I think the coin was most likely a MS63RD, but acknowledge that it could have been assigned a MS62, depending on what the grader saw in hand. A MS63RB is listed at 250.00 which is what I said the value was. Right now, with the coin being what it is now, I think maybe the value should be at about 175.00 - 200.00 but I can't see those values (just guessing), as I am looking at the free version PCGS puts up. If I am lucky enough to have the value at 200.00, and when this is done (getting my money back), I will have nearly the value of the coin as I first put it on the submission. So value wise, this will be about the same. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>(BTW, if any of you actually are PCGS members and can find out what the price points from MS60 thru 62 are for the BN, RB, and RD on this coin is ---- please let me know).</p><p><br /></p><p>The real stinker on this is not just that NCS improperly conserved the coin (looks like they used bad chemicals or dirty ones and employed no pre-screening to see if the coin would likely be helped for the spots that were showing), but that they initially had the temerity when I called, to say that the coin must have turned in the slab, between grading and my getting it back, and that they were confident that they could make the coin essentially the same as it was again. They also first only thought that they could cover this by refunding the NCS submission fees, and then did not want to value the coin at a Fair Market price, but to cover me by paying me the 1 cent I paid for the coin (since I got in in a box that I searched). </p><p><br /></p><p>Those things should be taken into account if you ever do want to send a copper or zinc/copper coin to NCS to conserve. Be prepared to have the worst results you could ever imagine and then being told that the only thing you were out was the amount you actually paid for the coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 1442057, member: 31533"]I totally agree. It was not NGC that ruined the coin. It was NCS. They are also supposed to return the conservation/grading fees to me as well as the amount I spent to send the coin back to have the splotchy mess taken off the coin. So I am waiting on an amount that is just over 62.00 to show up in my bank account. I called yesterday morning and spoke to Craig, again to confirm that that process was getting sped up. NGC doesn't have the 1999 WAM listed in their price guide on line, but PCGS does. The current values they list at a MS63 range from 215.00 to 410.00, depending on the color (not inclusive of their plus designations). I think the coin was most likely a MS63RD, but acknowledge that it could have been assigned a MS62, depending on what the grader saw in hand. A MS63RB is listed at 250.00 which is what I said the value was. Right now, with the coin being what it is now, I think maybe the value should be at about 175.00 - 200.00 but I can't see those values (just guessing), as I am looking at the free version PCGS puts up. If I am lucky enough to have the value at 200.00, and when this is done (getting my money back), I will have nearly the value of the coin as I first put it on the submission. So value wise, this will be about the same. (BTW, if any of you actually are PCGS members and can find out what the price points from MS60 thru 62 are for the BN, RB, and RD on this coin is ---- please let me know). The real stinker on this is not just that NCS improperly conserved the coin (looks like they used bad chemicals or dirty ones and employed no pre-screening to see if the coin would likely be helped for the spots that were showing), but that they initially had the temerity when I called, to say that the coin must have turned in the slab, between grading and my getting it back, and that they were confident that they could make the coin essentially the same as it was again. They also first only thought that they could cover this by refunding the NCS submission fees, and then did not want to value the coin at a Fair Market price, but to cover me by paying me the 1 cent I paid for the coin (since I got in in a box that I searched). Those things should be taken into account if you ever do want to send a copper or zinc/copper coin to NCS to conserve. Be prepared to have the worst results you could ever imagine and then being told that the only thing you were out was the amount you actually paid for the coin.[/QUOTE]
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