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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 946929, member: 26302"]I really don't see how this discussion got offtrack lilke this. A comparison of a fake versus real rolex and AU or BU coin is not remotely comparable. A proper comparison is a fake versus real rolex and fake versus real coin, or a very nice versus nice rolex, (real), and a BU and AU coin. Just because a dealer calls a coin a BU and someone else grades it AU does not mean it is not a real coin, it means a slight condition disagreement has occurred. Dang, you act like if a coin is not BU it is a forgery or something.</p><p> </p><p>I sure hope someone would not throw you under the bus like this if you have ever made a mistake. Or, like many have pointed out, there is no authoritative guide to grading, (legally), so how would you even know what grading standards the dealer was using? I say again that legally, (and morally to me), if a buyer inspects the coin and as long as the dealer did not "doctor" the coin to fraudulently hide damage, it is completely the buyers responsibility to decide whether to buy or not. Any grade is an OPINION, even TPG's grades are OPINIONS, not facts. No coin can have a REAL grade, just opinions, which will vary based upon what standards they use.</p><p> </p><p>Someone else brought up the fact the dealer is an expert versus the public. This applies if a little old lady comes in to sell coins. The dealer has an obligation to offer fair prices and not take advantage of a non collector. Selling to a collector is something different though. The collector is NOT a member of the general public, he is a collector and is expected to have his own knowledge and be held responsible for his own decisions.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 946929, member: 26302"]I really don't see how this discussion got offtrack lilke this. A comparison of a fake versus real rolex and AU or BU coin is not remotely comparable. A proper comparison is a fake versus real rolex and fake versus real coin, or a very nice versus nice rolex, (real), and a BU and AU coin. Just because a dealer calls a coin a BU and someone else grades it AU does not mean it is not a real coin, it means a slight condition disagreement has occurred. Dang, you act like if a coin is not BU it is a forgery or something. I sure hope someone would not throw you under the bus like this if you have ever made a mistake. Or, like many have pointed out, there is no authoritative guide to grading, (legally), so how would you even know what grading standards the dealer was using? I say again that legally, (and morally to me), if a buyer inspects the coin and as long as the dealer did not "doctor" the coin to fraudulently hide damage, it is completely the buyers responsibility to decide whether to buy or not. Any grade is an OPINION, even TPG's grades are OPINIONS, not facts. No coin can have a REAL grade, just opinions, which will vary based upon what standards they use. Someone else brought up the fact the dealer is an expert versus the public. This applies if a little old lady comes in to sell coins. The dealer has an obligation to offer fair prices and not take advantage of a non collector. Selling to a collector is something different though. The collector is NOT a member of the general public, he is a collector and is expected to have his own knowledge and be held responsible for his own decisions.[/QUOTE]
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