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<p>[QUOTE="ambr0zie, post: 8282237, member: 80952"]I like the denarius, [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER]. As usually, you acquire great coins with great eye appeal. And I fully understand the need to add a non Minerva Domitian coin. Everybody likes them (my first Domitian denarius was also a classic Minerva type) but if you have one and you're not a specialized collector, I don't think much more are needed.</p><p>I posted this coin before but I hope it's not overkill.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1462865[/ATTACH]</p><p>Yep, still Minerva, but a Minerva Victrix, flying.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Domitian AD 81-96. Rome</p><p>Denarius AR</p><p>18 mm, 2,62 g</p><p>RIC II, Part 1 (second edition) Domitian 791</p><p>Old RIC 194 (s) C. 294; BMC 237; CBN 210.</p><p><b>Date Range: </b>AD 95 - AD 96</p><p>IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P XV</p><p>Head of Domitian, laureate, right</p><p>IMP XXII COS XVII CENS P P P</p><p>Minerva, winged, draped, helmeted, flying left, holding spear in right hand and round shield on left</p><p>RSC description - Minerva Victrix, winged, flying l., holding javelin and round shield.</p><p><br /></p><p>From a description I found in an auction:</p><p>The iconography of this coin is most intriguing. This is the only depiction of a winged Minerva in all of Roman coinage, and indeed the concept itself has few parallels in surviving classical art. The closest comparable figure may be found in the winged statue of Minerva Victrix at Ostia, which originally formed part of the decoration of the upper gate known as the Porta Romana. This winged form of Minerva may well have been taken from earlier Greek images of Athena, such as that shown on a black-figure vase found at Orvieto and illustrated in Röm. Mitt. XII, pl. xii, which shows two representations of Athena – one winged and one without wings. With the exception of Nike-Victoria, most of the Greco-Roman gods had shed their wings by the early classical period; that such an archaism should be revived in the time of Domitian is therefore quite inexplicable, save perhaps for the possibility that it was simply an act of whimsy by an emperor who was known to favour Minerva above all other gods.</p><p><br /></p><p>A low budget denarius from Domitian (as Caesar) bought also for the reverse</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1462866[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Domitian (Caesar, 69-81) AR Denarius, Rome, 77-78</p><p>CAESAR AVG F DOMITIANVS - laureate head right</p><p>Rev: COS V - Soldier on horseback rearing right, raising right hand.</p><p>RIC 957 (Vespasian); C 49a</p><p>Old RIC 242</p><p>2,57 g, 18 mm</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Pegasus coins in my collection:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1462869[/ATTACH]</p><p>I was extremely surprised for getting this at 10 EUR as I find the Gallienus portrait unusually well struck.</p><p><br /></p><p>Gallienus AD 260-268. Rome</p><p>Antoninianus Æ silvered</p><p>20 mm, 2,88 g</p><p>Obv: GALLIENVS AVG, radiate head of Gallienus right / Rev: SOLI CONS AVG, Pegasus flying right.</p><p>RIC V Gallienus 283, RSC IV 979</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1462875[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Corinthia. Corinth circa 345-307 BC.</p><p>Drachm AR</p><p>13 mm, 1,87 g</p><p>Pegasos flying left, wings curled, Koppa below. / Head of Aphrodite left, hair in a sakkos. ΠA monogram behind head. BCD Corinth 162; SNG Fitzwilliam 3455-3456; SNG Cop. 136.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1462877[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Q. Titius, Rome, 90 BC. AR Denarius.</p><p>Head of young Bacchus right (Liber) , wearing ivy wreath.</p><p>Rev: Pegasus springing right Q·TITI</p><p>Crawford 341/2; RBW 1275; RSC Titia 2.</p><p>3.51 gr. 19 mm[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ambr0zie, post: 8282237, member: 80952"]I like the denarius, [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER]. As usually, you acquire great coins with great eye appeal. And I fully understand the need to add a non Minerva Domitian coin. Everybody likes them (my first Domitian denarius was also a classic Minerva type) but if you have one and you're not a specialized collector, I don't think much more are needed. I posted this coin before but I hope it's not overkill. [ATTACH=full]1462865[/ATTACH] Yep, still Minerva, but a Minerva Victrix, flying. Domitian AD 81-96. Rome Denarius AR 18 mm, 2,62 g RIC II, Part 1 (second edition) Domitian 791 Old RIC 194 (s) C. 294; BMC 237; CBN 210. [B]Date Range: [/B]AD 95 - AD 96 IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P XV Head of Domitian, laureate, right IMP XXII COS XVII CENS P P P Minerva, winged, draped, helmeted, flying left, holding spear in right hand and round shield on left RSC description - Minerva Victrix, winged, flying l., holding javelin and round shield. From a description I found in an auction: The iconography of this coin is most intriguing. This is the only depiction of a winged Minerva in all of Roman coinage, and indeed the concept itself has few parallels in surviving classical art. The closest comparable figure may be found in the winged statue of Minerva Victrix at Ostia, which originally formed part of the decoration of the upper gate known as the Porta Romana. This winged form of Minerva may well have been taken from earlier Greek images of Athena, such as that shown on a black-figure vase found at Orvieto and illustrated in Röm. Mitt. XII, pl. xii, which shows two representations of Athena – one winged and one without wings. With the exception of Nike-Victoria, most of the Greco-Roman gods had shed their wings by the early classical period; that such an archaism should be revived in the time of Domitian is therefore quite inexplicable, save perhaps for the possibility that it was simply an act of whimsy by an emperor who was known to favour Minerva above all other gods. A low budget denarius from Domitian (as Caesar) bought also for the reverse [ATTACH=full]1462866[/ATTACH] Domitian (Caesar, 69-81) AR Denarius, Rome, 77-78 CAESAR AVG F DOMITIANVS - laureate head right Rev: COS V - Soldier on horseback rearing right, raising right hand. RIC 957 (Vespasian); C 49a Old RIC 242 2,57 g, 18 mm Pegasus coins in my collection: [ATTACH=full]1462869[/ATTACH] I was extremely surprised for getting this at 10 EUR as I find the Gallienus portrait unusually well struck. Gallienus AD 260-268. Rome Antoninianus Æ silvered 20 mm, 2,88 g Obv: GALLIENVS AVG, radiate head of Gallienus right / Rev: SOLI CONS AVG, Pegasus flying right. RIC V Gallienus 283, RSC IV 979 [ATTACH=full]1462875[/ATTACH] Corinthia. Corinth circa 345-307 BC. Drachm AR 13 mm, 1,87 g Pegasos flying left, wings curled, Koppa below. / Head of Aphrodite left, hair in a sakkos. ΠA monogram behind head. BCD Corinth 162; SNG Fitzwilliam 3455-3456; SNG Cop. 136. [ATTACH=full]1462877[/ATTACH] Q. Titius, Rome, 90 BC. AR Denarius. Head of young Bacchus right (Liber) , wearing ivy wreath. Rev: Pegasus springing right Q·TITI Crawford 341/2; RBW 1275; RSC Titia 2. 3.51 gr. 19 mm[/QUOTE]
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